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wishit
#1 Posted : 10/21/2014 6:50:24 PM
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Hi everyone
I was able to achieve what I said in the title in only my 3rd extraction attempt. While my first 2 were also successful, they served me well as practise and as learning experiences. I thought it would be interesting to post this because it goes to show how even beginners like me can get good results.

Firstly, if you are a complete beginner you will need to read up on a couple of things in order for you to make sense of some of what I'm going to describe. Mainly, and most importantly after you've read all the health and safety instructions you will need to research Cyb's hybrid salt tek and become famiiar with it as much as possible. I wont go into too great a detail in this post about technical matters because I am essentially using Cyb's tek to the letter with only a couple of small changes to suit my own personal situation. The changes I made are the whole point of this to be honest, to explain exactly what I did to yield that 2%. For all your extraction info you should refer to Cyb's original tek, I've been using it since day one and let me just say, "I love you Cyb! Thankyou, thankyou thankyou".

So...onto what I did differently.
The main change is that I used shredded mhrb as opposed to powdered. This is entirely down to the lack of things at hand. I do not own a blender, nor a fan, and I do the whole thing without them. I leave my shredded bark to sit in lye for 24 hours so it wil be broken down that way. I add the measured amount and the solution turns black and caustic, then I leave the jar for an hour or 2 to cool down, I don protective gloves and goggles, screw the lid on the jar and shake it for about 2 minutes, the carefully unscrew the lid again and set the jar down. I wipe the lid and then loosely place it back atop the jar. It's at this stage that I leave it untouched for exactly 24 hours. Get some sleep, come back to it the next day.

24hrs later I come back to it. Starting off with a 3 hour heat bath, no stirring or extra mixing just straight in the bath. Heated warm to hot, 45-50c, reheating every 45 minutes as it cooled. Be careful not to overheat, close to boiling is too hot.
Now onto the non-polar solvent stage and the next big difference.
The solvent and pulling methods remain the same, it's just for some reason the process takes me longer to do than others. I'm unsure why this is but it doesn't really matter, it feels natural to me and if I go any faster then it makes me feel like I'm in too much of a rush. IMO, it's good to get the pulling done at your own pace so you feel comfortable. I still do the 4 agitations and let the naphtha seperate 4 times like described in Cyb's tek, it just takes me around 3 hours to do so!
Before I explain exactly how I do the pulls, since we are on the topic of solvent and naphtha, I need to give another shoutout to a fellow Nexian who advised me once as to which to use. Yamma1, if you're listenning buddy, thankyou so much! The solvent he/she recommended to me is a type of panel wipe called Upol System 20 fast panel wipe, available on Ebay. It works a treat and it evaporates cleaner than lighter fluid.

The pulls.
For my 3rd extract I had decided beforehand that I was going to do 8 pulls this time and I'd do them all back to back. I wanted to hit that magical 2% and 8 sounds like a good number, it's the infinity symbol after all, so I went with 8 instead of my normal 6 pulls. Very first bit of solvent added, after that 3 hr heat bath remember?, the mix is still warm so I dont put in back in another bath just yet. Roll the jar around in figure 8 circles and end over end, gently but thoroughly for 8 minutes (theres that number again!) Then set it down for 20 minutes to let it seperate. After 20 minutes repeat the 8 minutes of rolling then put into a heat bath same temperature as before. I leave this for 45 minutes, then roll again for 8, then let sit again for 20. That's 3 agitations so far coming up to the fourth and final one. Roll again for 8 minutes and back into a heat bath for another 45 minutes. Then pipette out into dish, add more naphtha and repeat. That's how I do each pull. It takes 3 hours each pull. Like I said before I did 8 pulls this time, combining all into the same dish. It took me a marathon 24hrs just to do all 8 pulls. I was exhausted by the end of it and I will not be doing it that way again, nor do I recommend it. Next time I will probably split in up into 2 days, 4 pulls one day, 4 the next.

All pulls into one dish. Let evaporate over time down to around 80 to 100ml. Wrapped up thoroughly in cling film then straight into freezer on it's highest setting for 24hrs. After that time I quickly decanted excess nps and placed the dish upside down for 5 minutes in the fridge. After that, moved nearby an open window for 2 hours. Then scraped up with a razor and left on another plate to dry further.

To make a long story short, a single re x later and final yield of 50g mhrb = exactly 1g ie a 2% yield.

So yeah, that's how I did it and how maybe you can too. Good luck to ya.
Once again thanks to Cyb and Yamma1 (and numerous others in chat area!), you guys rule, thankyou so much.

P.s. Sorry I didn't include links, I'm a computer newb and I dont know how!
Byebye, hope this helps someone
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Al-Wasi
#2 Posted : 10/21/2014 7:24:00 PM

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So you got a 1 gram yield from 50 gram mhrb after re x?

That's nuts if that's right. As I used cybs max ion tek to the t and although I originally yielded 1 gram after re x I only had around a half gram of white goodness.

I actually posted a thread about the 50% loss when re x as it seemed like it was too big. Let me ask how much was your initial yield before re x?

I find re x tricky as if you heat the npatha too much it dissolves the oils your trying to remove. I think my issue on this huge re x loss was not heating enough. As there was a bunch in the bottom that wouldn't dissolve. I was told 55 degree NPS and any hotter would dissolve the stuff your trying to remove so I just rolled with it and after freeze precipitation I lost 500mg.

Congrats on the extract. I like cybs tek a lot too though I'm prompt going to use q21 next time.
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wishit
#3 Posted : 10/21/2014 7:53:24 PM
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Hello!
Initial yield before re x was 1.280gram from 50gram mhrb. The 280mg got knocked off leaving exactly 1g white crystals.
Thankyou for reading. I too would like to learn about other teks in future, the foodsafe ones and Manske in particular.
So much here to learn Very happy
 
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#4 Posted : 10/21/2014 8:17:51 PM

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One thing I would recommend doing next time is a sodium carbonate wash of the NP solvent. This will remove any residual lye.

Question, what was your yield before re-x?

I will be using this tek in a couple weeks on some acrb.
 
wishit
#5 Posted : 10/23/2014 12:21:13 AM
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Just over quarter gram, 280mg, was lost during the re x. It was lovely white crystals even before the re x. I'm sure there's no contaminants left over, bulking up the weight. It's clean. Razz

I dont know if there are other alkaloids in there along with the DMT but it is clean.
Upon testing it certainly does the trick Twisted Evil
 
asteom
#6 Posted : 10/23/2014 6:34:31 AM

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I just finished up my very first extraction using cybs tek on 100g acrb, I am having a hard time believing the results. I just scraped my dish and weighed spice, 3.29 g! over 3%
very nice crystal formations, pure white. just sampled for taste and quality assurance because again, this must be a mistake but no... vapes clean and pristine, been a while since smoking spice... I swear a microdose dose wonders to clean up the meridians of energy flowing!

The only thing i can think that i did differently was like you, I took an extremely looongg time warming by acrb in base solution and in doing my pulls. I only did 5 pulls though, seeing these results and that you did 8 has be going back for more goodies cause i still have it!

this just doesnt seems possibleRazz Big grin
 
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#7 Posted : 10/23/2014 6:51:46 AM
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Asteom thats great if you got that, im doing cybs at the min with 50g but not finished yet, did you just double everything for 100
 
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#8 Posted : 10/23/2014 6:52:31 AM
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And could you post some pics
 
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#9 Posted : 10/23/2014 7:29:50 AM

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i used earthwalkers acrb 100g tek based on cybs hybrid salt tek.
cant get my computer to upload photos tonight. going to make a seperate thread on this to get some opinions, will post pic then
The total weight was minus what my girlfriend tried before me. im looking at a just shy if a 3.5% which seems to be unheard of.

 
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#10 Posted : 10/23/2014 7:34:38 AM
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Did you do the mini a/b might of not got all the fats out, but that's impressive if you did, yeah maybe a thread on the exact procedure on what you did including how long between each pulls, how long you left the soup before pulling ect
 
asteom
#11 Posted : 10/24/2014 1:33:15 AM

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i did indeed do the mini a/b. i did a very small 25 g test run skipping the mini a/b and was left with a beautiful yellow goo. vaped very nice, but with my 100 g run i did a a/b getting
dense needle point crystal formations.

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sbc1
#12 Posted : 10/24/2014 5:06:52 AM
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Well done asteom beautiful crystals, you must have some high quality bark
 
 
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