Right now I'm using a machine to administer my doses but recently my machine has been incapable of "getting me there". I have been convinced to get a vapor genie but have a question. I'm waiting to get the glass when I get paid but I have present money that I could start with the classic and in a bit upgrade to the gvg. But I have a question. Is the classic just as good as the glass only with the added disadvantage of not being able to see the smoke or are there other disadvantages. Though for me that's kinda a big one

I've got to ask, how old are you? The present money thing, along with living at home suggest that you're pretty young.

Im 21, 22 in december though people do say i look young too but my parents suggested that i live at home while attend collage. As for the present money, friends know my interest in dmt they knew my bday soon and thought money would do

Just checkin'.

GVG is the absolute gold standard, but the classic VG is a very good tool for our specific purpose as well. There is a bit of a learning curve (to both), but once you get it down, they will take you where you want to go. Vastly superior to the machine, IMO.

I got a little practice with the classic had trouble. Ive been using the warmth to sell if i got it or not thats all i can do. Tough but i think more practice will do. Mainly what im lookin for is a technique to give me a 1 hit break through. Any advice?

Also, I understand i shoulda been a bit more spacific about myself lol.

No problem. If you want a sure fire one hit breakthrough, it's the GVG or nothin'.

Ill be getting one soon, any advice to insure atleast a breakthrough with the lassic. My 4 trys resulted in slight effects the first 2 the 3rd was close but still sub breakthrough nd 4 was interupted. I think im either placing to much heat or my 6 screens arnt enough to hold the dmt idk im considering takin them out for a copper scrubber or so

ok so what do you actually have and how do you vape spice ? I understand you have the machine right ? do you use steel or copper mesh ? do you melt your spice in the mesh before vaping it ? what is you actual technique ? I am sure if you get technique right you can get a perfect hit even with the machine.

But of course the GVG is the best. Once you have that you will never want to use anything else for vaping.

Some reading here or here

Here some good tip as well

there are lots of threads about machine on this forum just use search tab.

I use steel mesh and melt it in. Relax for a moment while it cools and prepare for launch. Then with the lighter held below flame away from the mesh I slowly deeply inhale the plooms of vapor. My machine has made me breakthrough many times before but these recent times have given me a good experience but all sub breakthrough. Before I got to the point that I felt like I perfected my technique but these few times have been rather disappointing. Then I found out the gvg can produce a deffinate a one toke breakthrough when perfected. I figured this kinda was a sign to upgrade, I don't mean to knock the machine. I am going to miss it.

Honestly if you want to get a VG or a GVG because you want one then all the power to you but I have had over a dozen people use my machine-bubbler and NOT ONE SINGLE MISFIRE.

It is odd that you mention not being able to breakthrough. I have just pinned down an issue that has led me to suspect problems with my product, my smoking device or everything I did in the past week but it just seems that like with many things I just have a really f-ed up growing tolerance that takes a while to go back down.

I mean maybe it is your machine and I am way off and you don't have any such reaction but it is possible that the GVG will produce EXACTLY the same results and you may be left more frustrated than ever when it could just be a week or two break that you need.
I don't know how long it takes for me, I literally just figured it out today and seemingly confirmed it with 4 different occurrences in my journal.

My reason for getting it is I'm using henny bottle machine and figured this gvg would be a Piece to cherish. If it was something I put extensive time into making then I'd say I'll keep it and take a break. Then again I should take a break. I tryed yesterday and through I was using a frIends vg But due to a unnamed third person he kinda ruined it, just spent product and minor fractals. Im not angry it was actualy kind of funny but it getting ruined made me decide to wait till i feel the next one comming. So I am gonna take a week break. Basically till the gvg gets here and if it arrives early I'll still wait. And then try it out and see how it goes. I'm not expecting a one hit breakthrough first try. But maybe the break and a new spin on intake is just what I need like u said.

Sorry for my lack of paragraphs.

I've been using the machine (a single-serving grand marnier bottle with a hole/hose and mesh catch), and have shared the molecule with about 15 people so far. As of yet, there hasn't been a single misfire, but I find myself having a hard time breaking through lately. It's not so much ego or innerself as I think it might be my method or tek of smoking.

I just ordered a GVG Sherlock with about 30 screens, should be here day after tomorrow.

In regards to the machine, my method so far is to take a ball of steel wool, cover it with about 50mg, put the steel wool in the mouthpiece of the bottle, put my flame about an inch from the opening and inhale a loooong hit. This has worked great, but Im not breaking through as much as I think I should be. Am I doing something wrong?

Drew a diagram of my machine, hope it helps



Could someone give me a walkthrough for smoking with a machine, and also with a GVG Sherlock?