This is my first ever post, so please forgive me if it's already been posted before..

Man dies, comes back to live - sounds similar to a DMT trip

I Watched this video and thought - ignoring the religious undertones - it sounds like he experienced a DMT trip just like others on this forum have described it..

I watched a few more related videos and then came across this interesting article / video leading brain surgeon who says he's been there...



This guy's description in the video also sounds familiar and the article is made more interesting by the account it is claimed that his brain was indicating zero brain activity whilst in his induced comma... Is this proof of consiousness - without the brain functioning?..

Anyone care to share their opinions?

Hello, and welcome!

It's been said by the members here that while an NDE is the front door entrance to the afterlife, a breakthrough DMT flash is more like a back-door. Feel free to interpret that however you want to

As someone who investigates this stuff beyond my own psychedelic adventures, I can perhaps help guide you to some interesting things that's already been said. This article is a good introduction to the situation we're in, basically. It is indeed a sensitive subject in this day and age. And as for the actual science of NDEs, see for instance this, this, this and this for a good introduction.

It should be kept in mind though that NDEs are much, much crazier and more indescribable than DMT - and I say that fully aware of how infinitely insane and otherworldly DMT is. As for the actual, tangible differences, the following are some examples: DMT flashes are forgotten pretty quickly, much like dreams, whereas NDEs are remembered for life just as they happened. NDEs don't have a comedown like DMT has. You can be in the light, BOOM, you're back in real life completely sober. NDEs are pleasant and easy to handle for most people who have them, whereas DMT can put a lot of people off - no one who has been in the light of an NDE wants to go back, unless they really don't want to leave their loved ones behind, and all of them are certain of the reality of an afterlife. DMT only convinces some people some of the time that there might be something to the whole afterlife thing.

I could go on, but you get the point. Psychedelics can certainly take you really far though, on proper doses. But nothing like a truly deep NDE.

As for Eben Alexander's specific NDE, I don't think that in itself is very good evidence for consciousness without brain activity. Taken on its own, it's just a drop in the ocean compared to the vast ocean of data already accumulated. What is more telling is how a Harvard neurosergeon, who previously was completely uninterested in NDEs and thought they were illusions of some kind, has one, and boom, convinced. As all others before him have been. Here is another famous example of someone who was a super-atheist but changed their tune once they had an NDE.

Anyway, I don't want to drown you in links, so I'll stop here. But this is an interest of mine and I've researched this a lot, so any and all questions and objections are welcome!

Wow, Im going to spend my lunch break reading through all this material!

Thank you for the response

Are you aware if there are any sceintific studies reported to suggest that the pineal gland produces more DMT during NDE's etc, or do you personally think they are totally unrelated?

I used to Lucid Dream a lot when I lived at my previous address and feel i've lost touch with that slightly as my life has become so much more hectic, but I still have the occassional lucid dream and have always been completely fascinated by it's possibilities... I also accidentaly experienced some version of astral projection briefly while trying to induce lucid dreaming after following some tips off the internet, involving sleep paralysis as a trigger. That experience was not very nice and I almost had to contort my whole body to break free from what was happening and what I assumed was seeing myself from different angles...

Overall though I have always had really good dream recall - and just wanted to ask you, when you have experienced your DMT trips do you remember them long term, or does the entire trip and essence fade away within minutes?

You're welcome!


It's established that DMT is found in trace amount in the human body. Beyond that, we know virtually nothing about it. There's no evidence that it's produced in the pineal gland, or released in higher amounts than normal when we're in the REM states of sleep and especially not when we're being born or dying.

However, there is research to suggest that DMT *might* be produced in the pineal gland in rats, so it's perhaps not too big a leap to suspect that it's produced in the pineal gland of humans as well. Time will tell


Yeah I can relate, and I don't like sleep paralysis at all. One time I had some alien voice said in a very robotic and scary manner "Merging into reality", and I was like NOPE and forced myself awake ;D


They fade very quickly indeed. I can recall some things that happened, but I certainly can't relate to it anymore.