When you basifyed did the acidic water turn to a thick soupy looking white almost whit like milk ???

Yep, it turned very white as soon as I added lye.

I'm have hard time with my first extraction. I did a stb, and when the naptha and base/plant material separated I can see a ton of shards. The problem with this is that I can't retrieve then. I pull the naptha, and see them just sitting on the top. Please help, what do I do?

For a starters more information would help us help you , also you should maybe first read FAQ !!

i had that problem and started this thread

the search is your friend

I have read through the faq, but don't know what this problem would be considered. I don't think it's a emulsion issue, but then again I could be wrong. I used 100 grams acasia inner root bark, 100 grams lye, and 1000ml of h2o. Put it into a large mason jar and eventually added enough naphta to make about a inch layer. Heated in warm water bath while stirring a few times. Then attempted a few pulls. I get the goo which isn't the issue,I can just recrystallize. The problem is I see a lot off clear shards formed at room temp in the mixture jar that are sitting right on top of the plant/base material. I tried warming and stirring more, I've let it sit for a few days to make sure it separated, and have even tried adding sea salt, but they still are in there unable to be retrieved. Is this an emulsion issue, or is the solution not basic enough, or something else I missed? Any info would be helpful

since they formed have you added more warm naptha to soak them up? if they are Magic needles they will dissolve into the warm solvent, thats what happened to mine anyway.

Just heated the whole mixture in a boiling water bath, same with the naptha. Then shook it up and place the mixture of the two in the boiling water bath until it separated, shook again, and let separate. The crystals dissolved by the looks of things, so I pulled the naptha, and stuck it in the freezer to freeze precipitate. I'm hoping those little beauties pop up again, this time in the naptha pull though lol I'll keep ya posted on how things go. Thank you very much I really appreciate you taking time to give me a bit of your wisdom

no worries

doing an extraction as i type this and a couple of questions have come to mind.

i am doing a 100g extraction of ACRB using cyb's salt tek + a mini A/B. I have done this once with some success.

since my last extraction i have acquired some heptane.. i have heard it is more selective so if i use this for my first 5 pulls before the mini A/B.. will the mini A/B even be necessary?
or should i do the process as before with VM&P naphtha and save my heptane for a recrystallization..? honestly the recrystallization doesn't seem necessary to me so if i don't want to do that is there any reason for me to bother with the heptane?

Got a lot of purdy yellow orange goo, now to recrystallize or not? I hear the goo is quite potent due to the presence of nmt. Suggestions?

do a search , theres endless info about the pro's and con's of goo

Tried a bit and was presently surprised. Definitely had the body euphoria of the nmt, dark cev's, and just an overall sense of well being and joy.even thinking of the experience is enough to send waves of joyous energy through my body. Felt invigorating I'm defiantly new to dmt/nmt but I'm already beginning to see that it truly is a wonderful medicine, as I believe psychedelics in general can be if they are used in the right context. This definitely has a special place in my heart though. Makes me radiate the positive energy I gained from my experience. I still have some acrb, so I think the next try will be earthwalkers tek for the 100g acrb with the a/b extraction. Looks like it produces nice crystals.

Earthwalker can you please post a link to your extraction tek for acrb? I ran across it while browsing, but can't find it. For some reason my search function isn't working. Thank you very much

Sure !!! https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=58064

Earthwalker im doing cyb's tek this Saturday but with your mini a/b, should i still use 500ml of water, i suppose it dosen't mata im using 50 grams because ill be cleaning the pulls

Hi, I just wanted to share my experience with you

I did my very first extraction using cyb salt tek

the first and fourth pulls were nice (respectively 250 and 160mg)

for the first pull, everything was dead on, regarding to quantities used.

then I added some more distilled water to raise the overall level so it'd be easier to pull

I did my first two pulls the same day, then the next day, did one additional pull, then one more the next day etc...

at first I had white crystals, then now I can get some yellow goo along with more yellow crystals (I don't mind that much, actually)

now I got nothing in the freezer and it's been about 24 hours that my soup is sitting there.

I'm considering extracting some more, my 4 pulls were fairly uneven

1st pull: 250mg
2nd: 90mg
3rd: 60mg (at that point I was fairly disappointed)
4th: 160mg (yay!)

I used 50g mhrb, so I'm definitely closer to 1% right now, but maybe I'm doing a few things wrong

now a few questions:

1st: what to do with the soup once I pulled everything?
2nd: my bottle's cap doesn't seem to be air/water tight anymore, can I put everything in another bootle?
3rd: I didn't warm naphta before adding it, should I warm it a little?
4th: how hot should be the bath when I mix the naphta? (I've read 45/50°C)
5th: once pulled, should I put directly everything in the freezer, or should I let it evaporate a little bit before?

thank you !

I think you need to reread that TEK because the answer to you're questions is in the description !

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but SWIM would like some advice on an A/B extraction:


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Hello,

1) Extracted 500 HBWR in anhydrous MeOH for 7 days.
2) Evaporated filtrate under vacuum, resulting in orange oily substance and a bit of seed material
3) Redissolved in ddH20, easily dissolved with some shaking / agitation. Extract turned white-ish. When fully dissolved solution looked akin to a colloid of absinth and water with slight green hint.
4) Proceeded to filter this, and resulting solution was relatively clear but still retained green tint.
5) Solution was basified with 1ml of 1N NaOH
6) Solute was mixed with half the volume of chloroform
7) Organic layer was dried under vacuum to yield white crystals.

Now this is where SWIM had some what of a brain fart

Cool tried to redissolve in ddH20 and absolute EtOH (2:1)
9) extract was almost completely insoluble.
10) acidified to try to increase solubility with 1N HCL, with no observable change in solubility
11) basified with 5N NaOH, and had a slight increase in solubility with the water layer developing a slight green tinge.
12) added xylene to extract freebase (1:2), and remaining extract easily dissolved in organic layer.

So at this point, SWIM thinks the actives are still in the organic phase. Any suggestions on next steps? I was going to isolate the organic phase, treat with dilute HCL, and evaporate off solvent. What do you think?

Hi there fellow nexians!
I've just done my second A/B extraction following the DMT Handbook, and as far as I can see everything went as smooth as silk.. My question to you guys is:

How do I know all the DMT crashed out of the naphtha?

I have kept the naphtha for reuse and it is still a dark reddish/orange color, which gets me thinking there should be more spice in my solvent? I have precipitated around 11g of spice from 1500g MHRB. not quite 1% but still a nice yield IMO so is it possible that I have some more spice in my solvent waiting to get out?