I have been extracting from mimosa using Q21Q21’s tek, pulling with Hepthane and vaporizing with GVG. I thought my yields were slightly above 2% but now I think those yields were contaminated with lime. Some of my pulls gave me great experiences but some other pulls give me bad trips and I can tell it before it starts by the taste of the vapor, especially when exhaling (too late). It has a very chemical like taste to it. Sometimes almost no visuals but always a total mind fuck. Don’t know who I am, where I am, what I am doing. There is always a terrible throat burn. I had breakthroughs before and I know this is not how DMT is supposed to be.

I suspected many things and after eliminating many possibilities now I am suspecting the lime because even when I used perfectly white crystals I still got that chemical taste, throat burn and bad trip. Lime is white, therefore indistinguishable from a good but tiny dmt crystal. It may not be soluble in Hepthane but it can float in it and still get pulled.

Can I have some advice on how to avoid lime in my final product? I tried recrystallizations, didn’t seem to work. I tried washing the Hepthane with just tap water before freeze-precipitation. It seemed to work somewhat. Water had high pH after the wash. Maybe I had to wash it several times. I will try this again.

But there is already water in the basified mimosa mix. Why not make it wetter? Q21Q21 tek talks about consistency of the mix but never explains why it should have that certain consistency. What is wrong with too dry? Or what is wrong with too much water as I am suggesting here?

Hi karo it sounds like sometimes you're maybe burning you're spice alittle and that inturn is reducing the effects also I don't think lime is soluble in solvent I'm not to sure but someone else with more Experiance can chime in !!

Also bad or dark trips are part of the journey and mind and setting even taste can set the scene !!

Thanks for the suggestion Earthwalker.

From my initial attempts of smoking DMT I know how burned DMT is. This is not the problem here. I know how to vaporize.

Also the nature of those bad trips is different than what people normally mean by a bad trip. They mean they saw bad things. I don't see anything, just a total mind fuck, very similar to the descriptions of smoked 5-Meo-DMT. My guess is that it is because actual DMT content is low in my 20~30mg dosage, some of it being lime. I had breakthroughs before with those dosages using GVG.

Lime may not be soluble in Hepthane but it can float in it and still cross over into the final product.

1. lime shouldn't dissolve in solvent (any floating particulates would be noticeably visible, and easily filtered
2. washing a solvent with water would remove any possible base contam (as implausible as that contam is to have to begin with)
3. lime doesn't cause bad trips.

i think you got dmt in your dmt

Parshvik has the brunt of it. I may also suggest that when you have the solvent separated from the gunk, let it sit for a few minutes before moving into a freezing vessel. The reason I say that is that others have reported that depending on separation technique, they've gotten suspended particles in the solution. The particles are heavier than the solevnt so they eventually settle (like clay in water, kind of). It shouldn't take longer than 5-10 minutes, which isn't bad either because you want to do a pre-evap before freezing in most cases.