is mexican bark really that much stonger?? I ordered 100 g of brazilian mimosa hostilis rootbark, and got an extra 10 grams of "high quanlity" mexican in with my order..is mexican bark usually just stronger in N,N, or does it also contain diff variations of alks like the jungle spice? It said 2 grams is strong enough for a good dose of aya, so I think I will save it for that..I have only drank with chaliponga, and always got spice from my bark.. Just wondering what people that drink with mimosa think of it compared to chali..is it cleaner, or do you not like it becasue of the jungle?

SWIM hasnt gotten to take his jungle spice orally yet..but hes been liking smoking it much more than clean pure spice..its a much more full experience and more grounded and euphoric..its so much better

but he will be testing his jungle spice orally sometime soon and see how it goes

SWIM is also doing an extraction on some chaliponga with some d-limonene...so he will be able to see the difference

I always used full alkaloid extractions for pharmahuasca and the one time I used pure NN DMT I found it to be very very strange. It was less introspective and much more just the drug taking over.

So I'll always leave the jungle spice in the mix for my pharma sessions.

SWIM is starting to realize that purifying spice to pure white stuff isnt really better...yeah it looks really cool..but it definitely is way more like a drug..and less interesting and forgiving..jungle spice is much much nicer in his opinion all around

I have not tried the jungle spice on its own..but sometime my elf friend pulls both together from the bark with 99%iso after 2 defats and freebasing it..he gets red spice..but really likes it..

jorkest..does you're swim think that the jungle spice is as or more visual than clean spice?

oh and report back in the chaliponga! My elf likes smoking it but it can get weird..hes pulling some now and thinking of making sublingual hits with some of it..

The spice I've got from Mexican MHRB from ebay was nice, extraction was really clean. As for jungle spice, I did a CWI with 28g of the same MHRB powder and it was uneventful. However there was a heavy purge, I wasn't able to keep it in very long at all.

check out the new tek thread that i started..there is a picture of the chaliponga fumarate crystals that formed..and he says that he hasnt smoked enough to know if its more visual..but it sure is beautifully visual..