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Hi kubizm, I even got to work lat this morning as I was photographing a bunch on newly discovered acacia's around my area.. I even found a.dealbata up the backyard of my parents house on Sunday.... I have not noticed it my entire life, but now that I am more 'aware', acacia's keep popping up everywhere. I would say at least 90% of trees/shrubs you see at the moment (in Oz) with yellow flowers are acacias! regarding your pic, for more accurate ID the best is to have a closeup of the phyllodes... could you get a better shot? Throughout recorded time and long before, trees have stood as sentinels, wise yet silent, patiently accumulating their rings while the storms of history have raged around them --The living wisdom of trees, Fred Hageneder
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Can someone confirm if this is Obtusifolia? --Shadow attached the following image(s):  IMG_20140909_135720.jpg (1,046kb) downloaded 77 time(s). IMG_20140909_140639.jpg (712kb) downloaded 77 time(s). IMG_20140909_140734.jpg (559kb) downloaded 78 time(s).Throughout recorded time and long before, trees have stood as sentinels, wise yet silent, patiently accumulating their rings while the storms of history have raged around them --The living wisdom of trees, Fred Hageneder
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do you have any pics of the phyllodes? i believe it does vary a little but the phyllodes look perhaps a little too narrow and lacking in the blunt tips and resinous edges? it definitely looks different to most obtusifolia I've seen
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Yeah sure mate. I'll go for a walk in the next few days and take a bunch, I remember seeing somewhere on here (I believe) that someone posted a link to a website that helps ID acacia's, Where you pick like what the bark texture is like, same with the flowers and all that and it helps you narrow it down, like a interactive thing. Sorry my description isn't the best haha, just wondering if anyone has that link. I stole a globe map, saw the world for the taking!
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yeah.. you should be able to narrow obtuse down pretty easily just through analysing the features of the phyllodes and flowers. obtusifolia has much paler flowers than the above photos.. a bit shorter too. and the phyllodes have blunt tips, irregular indenting (twisted sort of like) and red edges.. not sure what the website is sorry
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All good, I'll have a lurk around and Im sure I'll find it  I stole a globe map, saw the world for the taking!
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This? --Shadow wrote:I know what you mean. Have you tried the online wattle key yet? Wattle2.2
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Haha yes! I just found it and was about to post the link too I stole a globe map, saw the world for the taking!
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So I've tried both versions of the Wattle key, but they both keep narrowing down to ONLY obtusifolia  Here's a closeup of the phyllodes. If you need anymore measurements or photos let me know and I'll upload. --Shadow attached the following image(s): IMG_20140910_155037.jpg (793kb) downloaded 248 time(s). IMG_20140910_155955.jpg (1,195kb) downloaded 245 time(s). IMG_20140910_160014.jpg (1,546kb) downloaded 246 time(s). IMG_20140910_160034.jpg (1,440kb) downloaded 246 time(s).Throughout recorded time and long before, trees have stood as sentinels, wise yet silent, patiently accumulating their rings while the storms of history have raged around them --The living wisdom of trees, Fred Hageneder
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The anastomisation looks very obtuse-like but the flower arrangement on the branch looks very maidenii-like, the blunt tips are clear in that picture. Possibly a hybrid of both and/or more? I will leave it to the more knowledgable and go and sit on the fence 
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^based on the look of and arrangement of the flower spikes, flowering time & colour, and also the look of the phyllodes (the veins, and lack resinous margins) i'd suggest a madenii x , like DreaMTripper..there may even be some longifolia in there..as i've mentioned in the info thread in the past there are some complexes going on in this group of acacias..pods and seed aril would help clear this up further..it's a nice find..
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Thanks guys. Yeah, I've got a feeling that hybrids are playing games with me.... For instance, this one below, all my measurements come out as saligna, but the gland looks like its at the apex of the phyllode like sauveolens ... could it be a cross of these two? --Shadow attached the following image(s): IMG_20140910_160034.jpg (529kb) downloaded 211 time(s). IMG_20140910_231513.jpg (1,526kb) downloaded 208 time(s).Throughout recorded time and long before, trees have stood as sentinels, wise yet silent, patiently accumulating their rings while the storms of history have raged around them --The living wisdom of trees, Fred Hageneder
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After going for another walk I found another Acacia. This one is different to the other ones I found as the leaves seem alot fatter and stubbier Here are some pics if anyone can ID kubizm attached the following image(s): 20140914_164934.jpg (1,932kb) downloaded 197 time(s). 20140914_164754.jpg (3,166kb) downloaded 194 time(s). 20140914_165227.jpg (3,769kb) downloaded 193 time(s).I stole a globe map, saw the world for the taking!
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Acacia longifolia, typical phyllodes and rods , that are very evenly and uniformly spread on the branch.
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Cheers g I stole a globe map, saw the world for the taking!
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Recently came back to Australia after a long holiday, so I went out today and found some Acaias in Sydney. Looks mainly like Longolia, but I could be mistaken. There we ones with lighter coloured leaves and some with darker green. The last one I believe to be Floribunda, as the leaves thinner and shorter and the flowers are cream like. Any thoughts would be appreciated. 1   2   3   4 
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Number 2 looks like a.sophorae , they all look like a variation of a.longifolia but there are many that look similar. Where are the glands? Longifolia will be seeding soon so that will reveal much more.
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Haha in the 3rd pic it appears to be a local train station , you say in Melbourne but cannot tell which species or subspecies the line is on !! Hehehe 
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I still find acacia retinodes and acacia saligna very difficult to distinguish from each other but its one of the two shpinx96
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