Hello people,

I'm going to do dmt soon for my first time as some of you may know if you have read my recent post. I'm planning on smoking dmt in a spliff for my first time because I think I would be able to take 1 or 2 tokes and just see what the sensation is like and also the visuals. But if i am fine and want to try to go for a breakthrough experience would it be possible for me to breakthrough by smoking the dmt in a spliff or nott?

Also if anyone has tried this before could you tell me what your experience was like and also if you think it's a good idea for a first timer.

Thank you in advance everyone <3

I have not smoked DMT in a spliff before, although I have read accounts on here of some people doing it that way, with mixed results. Personally, I've never even had good luck smoking DMT at all - the most powerful and memorable experiences I have had were usually vaporized DMT (with a Vapor Genie, glass). I've tried sprinkling DMT on top of cannabis in a pipe or bong, with mixed results. Not until I started using the Vapor Genie did I get predictable, consistent results.

If you want to start slow with a VG too, that's no problem. Just only use 10-15mg (20+) is considered a breakthrough dose. I don't mean to sound like I'm trying to sell the thing to you, but it really is the most effective way of imbibing the substance.

[/quote]I have not smoked DMT in a spliff before, although I have read accounts on here of some people doing it that way, with mixed results. Personally, I've never even had good luck smoking DMT at all - the most powerful and memorable experiences I have had were usually vaporized DMT (with a Vapor Genie, glass). I've tried sprinkling DMT on top of cannabis in a pipe or bong, with mixed results. Not until I started using the Vapor Genie did I get predictable, consistent results.

If you want to start slow with a VG too, that's no problem. Just only use 10-15mg (20+) is considered a breakthrough dose. I don't mean to sound like I'm trying to sell the thing to you, but it really is the most effective way of imbibing the substance. [/quote]

Oh really, yeah a good few people have recommended the vapor genie to me. I will eventually get around to giving it a try I think but just want to start off lightly. Yeah a pipe or bong was gonna be the next step after I give the spliff a try I think and sorte progress up the levels lol

Okay that sounds good, no I understand. I have heard good things about it, just also seems like the 'strongest' method of using it. I don't want to do something that I don't think I'll be prepared for

Thank you for the comment and advice

personally I'd smoke it raw or make some proper changa with a recipe on here. Why? I scraped up some left over oil from my device the other night and placed it in the middle of a rolled cigarette to try it, it did the job to a degree but with tobacco it's really not that nice, it seems to accentuate everything that's manky about smoking tobacco. Use anything but tobacco, too much nasty in it really.

I've used the DMJ (DMT joint) method many times with very mixed results, often disappointing... A few times it's been amazing but I think it was just luck. A joint will burn unevenly and you can cook right past the strong concentrations of spice crystals. You are more or less at the mercy of how the joint burns. You are also filling your lungs with a lot of non-DMT smoke which makes it harder to get a strong effect. I understand the desire to ease your way in, but a spliff is probably one of the more wasteful/less effective ways of doing it. IMO it's only good for situations where you want no hardware with you... I'll take them out on the kayak sometimes.

If you have a decent glass pipe (longer stems are better) try the ash sandwich: screen on the bottom, thick bed of sterile (completely cooked) cannabis ash on the screen with a small depression in the middle of the ash bed. Place the spice in the depression and cover with another 1/8" or more of ash. Bring the flame to the bowl gradually, try to use just the tip of the flame. Once the spice starts heating up you should be able to get it all in one toke. Try with 10-15 mg for starters... This should give you a much better and more consistent result than the DMJ.

DMT freebase in joints isn't the ideal method. You'll typically just get sub-par results. Plus, you tend to waste alot of DMT freebase that way.

If you want to get a nice intro to DMT, learn to vaporize a small amount in a homemade device, buy a GlassVaporGenie, sandwich method in a bowl or preferably bong, or make some enhanced leaf.

<3

I like smoking dream sticks(What I've heard people call a joint with the molecule added in) if I don't want to break through. After acquiring a Vapor Genie and giving it a great test run, I'll probably not use any other method for vaping if I am looking for Breakthrough results. I like changa and enhanced leaf, but i liked the crisp clean taste of the vapor produced by the VG more than I've like changa or enhanced leaf. The VG made the vapor taste like heaven!

^This. DMT doobies can be fun but I doubt you'll break through. And if you did you'd probably drop the joint. That'd be no good obviously. I'd Look into making a machine or buying a gvg.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

Thank you everyone for the ideas and comments, I think I'm gonna go ahead method and I'll definitely keep you all posted on how it goes and if the breakthrough works

Glad to hear it. Let us know how it goes for you.

Add some freebase harmala and you'll have great time, but I doubt you will smoke the complete blunt with harmalas...

I have done DMT spliff breakthrough. Really nice. Just make sure to use some MAOI in the spliff and use a good old chunk of dmt >100mg or more with some tasty herb is good.

The effect is more of a drift off than a blast off you slip into hyperspace.

Enjoy

I did it once. And it succeeded.
I made a joint with first 1cm normal tabacco. Then 0,5-1cm with the spiced herb/tabacco. The rest normal tabbaco again.
So the first part will heat up the spiced part. When you smell/taste the DMT, then you try to slowly inhale the total spiced part. Keep it in long. Goodluck... Intrested in your results.

my cat has had powerful experiences with blunts, although my cat is always concerned about the lit cigar my cat would not want to burn anything down

The best thing I have gotten good results with since I dont have a vapor genie or vaporizer is: A Stem. Yes, the same kind 'crack' is smoked out of. They only cost a dollar and you light the OUTSIDE of the glass, not the inside of the tip. Works almost TOO Good. It takes a little practice but I used a candle for a steady flame and I've had some really intense breakthroughs.
I use copper 'chore' which I of course burn first to get rid of the coating [[ Dont want to smoke THAT with DMT ! ]] then I'll pack it in and when I want to smoke I sometimes even use the 'Wick' method but you have to be patient because it can be a bit tedious.
I pull on just a thread of the copper so it comes out of the pipe attached to a few other copper threads, then I'll pack some deemsters in, pack some copper on top, pack a little more deems, then more copper and so forth and so forth.
Then, I sit down and if I left a little copper hanging out of the tip, I'll use the 'Wick' method and that vaporizes the deemsters pretty darn good. Otherwise I'll light up the outside of the stem and that works well too...warning though : You may not even know you are getting a hit until WHAM, you are feeling it ! So, be attentive as best you can. By the third hit I have to put the pipe down and 'Go with it".
It takes practice but since I dont have the money for a 'vaporizer', I find it works just as well ... [[ I think,lol! I've never used a vaporizer yet ]]