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Enlightened_One
#1 Posted : 8/31/2014 2:29:42 PM

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Hello Fellow Explorers!

I would like to talk about an experience I had and still have time to time. After my first journey with the molecule I have had beautiful and meaningful Pineal Gland energy rushes (for lack of a better term)..

EDIT: to clarify these Pineal Rushes happen while sober and NOT while journeying with the molecule.

I've learned to be able to control them a bit more then when they first starting occurring but still happen. The most peculiar aspect of these rushes is that they aren't random, and in fact correlate with my brains specific thought processes.

Mental: At first they seemed totally random to me... but then I started connecting them with specific thoughts or visions I would have in my mind. If I were to think about something happening that actuay did happen or something that is going to happen as soon as a vision of whatever that thought is would pop into my head I would immediately have a Pineal Rush sensation shoot from my head. They would also occur whenever I visualize an event happening... the vision I would create in my mind would cause a Rush to happen.

Physical: The Rush itself is quite sensational. It only lasts maybe 1.5 seconds but would come on like a ton of bricks. It would first start with a whooshing/ringing sound from quiet to loud with a physial swelling feeling in the center of my brain. As soon as the ascension of tone hit its peak and the pressure was too much, there is a giant release/explosion of energy that shoots from my Pineal and through my entire body. It will occasionally make my vision slightly skewed, but keep in mind this whole experience is no more than 2 seconds in duration. Its never painful, and usually quite pleasing but if anything, it can be slightly uncomfortable due to the power of the experience.


What made me less worried that it is a physical health issue is that the Pineal Rushes coincide with specific thought processes making them not random. Its also been years of experiencing this peculiar phenomena so its become normal.

So, any thoughts? I've always been curious to what y'all think...

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#2 Posted : 8/31/2014 2:34:48 PM

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#3 Posted : 8/31/2014 5:10:50 PM

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..not sure if we talk about the same thing, but during our last supermoon session with *brew, after about 6 hrs into travelling, a terrible certainty arose, namely that we was having another kind of rush here (either bodily owned/else/other or moon, or all of it).
 
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#4 Posted : 8/31/2014 6:20:35 PM
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My Pineal Gland blew wide open one night on the spice. It was one of them failed to launch kind of nights. I was fatigued from lifting weights the previous day and didnt realize how broken down my body was until i smoked a hit of the spice. I decided to call it a night but while laying on my bed i felt relaxed after several mins so decided to take one more hit. The swirling mass in the center of my head was unmistakable and simply amazing, it lasted a good 20 mins aswell. This was my only true encounter with the 3rd eye so far, however ive had many lesser encounters.

However i've never experienced anything along the lines of a short lived or even a RUSH of any sort as you explain. Shocked



For the record I've done just about all the research i possibly can, maybe others can shed more light on the subject, but what i know:

Distilled water - The only water anyone should ever drink. Cleans out inorganic mineral and nothing is better at decalcifying the Pineal Gland.

Tamarind - Sort of taste like ice tea when dissolved in water. You drink tamarind and urinate out fluoride.

Lemon juice - I can at time have minor 3rd eye sensation drinking lemon juice. This is practically apparent a day or 2 after a run-in with the spice.
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#5 Posted : 8/31/2014 6:24:20 PM

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my pineal gland blew up last night, hence i went to sleep.
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#6 Posted : 8/31/2014 6:35:57 PM

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Yes, I just want to clarify that the Pineal rushes happen while sober... without the help of the molecule or any other .medicine for that matter.

That is what's so peculiar about these sensations...
 
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#7 Posted : 8/31/2014 6:58:04 PM

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Enlightened_One wrote:
Yes, I just want to clarify that the Pineal rushes happen while sober... without the help of the molecule or any other .medicine for that matter.

That is what's so peculiar about these sensations...

You seem to "know" that these are pineal rushes (hence the terminology)?

But how do you know that these are not focal seizures? Not to scare you, but intezam has had (bad) grandmal seizures (aka epilepsy - now cured/without meds) and even as a kid, we'd sometimes experience this thick otherness (brick wall/ being hit by all combined sensations of the multiverse at once) but these were very short, lasting only seconds (thx God),like you described, however, we felt cursed and un-normal when these happened. And even now, we woudn't want them return.
 
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#8 Posted : 8/31/2014 7:37:24 PM
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Hey, i think i know exactly what you are experiencing.

I have experienced the same thing since i started tripping actually! but it has taken on some different forms since then.

At first these felt like short, electrical zaps passing through my brain from one side to the other, sometimes almost completely zoning me out when it hits the middle, other times it just a sound, vision gets skewed etc. but these were only in my trip but i had these over a loong peroid, wouldn't be suprised if would get these again someday, they seem to come and go

Then i did DMT twice, and this changed everything. in the weeks after dmt all i had to was do was recall the toughts i had tought during my trip about the reality beeing real. This was so intense, like beeing sucked into hyperspace for a fraction of a second, it almost felt like i could desyncronise myself at will from the matrix. either that or my brain making a short-circuit and rebooting itself. these went away, but my last (weak) one was 3 months after that.



Either way, i found these experiences pretty similar to what you've experienced. There like micro-brain farts combined with a giant energy rush. I don't mind having them, sometimes i enjoy them Very happy
 
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#9 Posted : 8/31/2014 7:45:32 PM

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Intezam wrote:
Enlightened_One wrote:
Yes, I just want to clarify that the Pineal rushes happen while sober... without the help of the molecule or any other .medicine for that matter.

That is what's so peculiar about these sensations...

You seem to "know" that these are pineal rushes (hence the terminology)?

But how do you know that these are not focal seizures? Not to scare you, but intezam has had (bad) grandmal seizures (aka epilepsy - now cured/without meds) and even as a kid, we'd sometimes experience this thick otherness (brick wall/ being hit by all combined sensations of the multiverse at once) but these were very short, lasting only seconds (thx God),like you described, however, we felt cursed and un-normal when these happened. And even now, we woudn't want them return.


Appreciate the concern and input but after consulting with a Doctor there was nothing out of the ordinary health wise.. and this "Pineal rush" I speak of lacks all symptoms of a grand mal seizure.
 
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#10 Posted : 8/31/2014 8:06:04 PM

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Enlightened_One wrote:
Intezam wrote:
Enlightened_One wrote:
Yes, I just want to clarify that the Pineal rushes happen while sober... without the help of the molecule or any other .medicine for that matter.

That is what's so peculiar about these sensations...

You seem to "know" that these are pineal rushes (hence the terminology)?

But how do you know that these are not focal seizures? Not to scare you, but intezam has had (bad) grandmal seizures (aka epilepsy - now cured/without meds) and even as a kid, we'd sometimes experience this thick otherness (brick wall/ being hit by all combined sensations of the multiverse at once) but these were very short, lasting only seconds (thx God),like you described, however, we felt cursed and un-normal when these happened. And even now, we woudn't want them return.


Appreciate the concern and input but after consulting with a Doctor there was nothing out of the ordinary health wise.. and this "Pineal rush" I speak of lacks all symptoms of a grand mal seizure.


Did the doctor you consulted perform an EEG? It's the only way to find out if one has a hightened convulsive threshold. The problem with focal or partial seizures is, that they can generalize, thus leading to a grandmal seizure.
 
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#11 Posted : 9/1/2014 4:49:29 PM

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Intezam Again, these "Pineal Rushes" I speak of has no similarities of grand mal seizure symptoms. The doctor himself said that as long as what I'm experiencing doesn't change or get worse(even though its not a bad or negative feeling to begin with) he said there isn't a need for an EEG.

Again, these are not painful, diatressing or even uncomfortable, just rather peculiar and thought provoking. Also, they aren't random like most seizures are. These occur with coinciding thought processes. I'm no Doctor but I trust the advice I received. Honestly, the doctor was even a bit baffled.
 
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#12 Posted : 9/1/2014 4:52:29 PM

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Hey, i think i know exactly what you are experiencing.

I have experienced the same thing since i started tripping actually! but it has taken on some different forms since then.

At first these felt like short, electrical zaps passing through my brain from one side to the other, sometimes almost completely zoning me out when it hits the middle, other times it just a sound, vision gets skewed etc. but these were only in my trip but i had these over a loong peroid, wouldn't be suprised if would get these again someday, they seem to come and go

Then i did DMT twice, and this changed everything. in the weeks after dmt all i had to was do was recall the toughts i had tought during my trip about the reality beeing real. This was so intense, like beeing sucked into hyperspace for a fraction of a second, it almost felt like i could desyncronise myself at will from the matrix. either that or my brain making a short-circuit and rebooting itself. these went away, but my last (weak) one was 3 months after that.



Either way, i found these experiences pretty similar to what you've experienced. There like micro-brain farts combined with a giant energy rush. I don't mind having them, sometimes i enjoy them Very happy


Ah! Very happy now this sounds awfully familiar.

I'm intrigued to hear that somebody else has had similar experiences.

And I'm with you, I rather enjoy them when they do occur. Yet, they have been occurring quite seldom lately.
 
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#13 Posted : 9/1/2014 8:20:21 PM

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I would experiment with the way your breathing and attention/concentration affect it. Do inhalations cause a different sensation from exhalation?
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#14 Posted : 9/1/2014 11:32:40 PM
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Enlightened_One wrote:

Ah! Very happy now this sounds awfully familiar.

I'm intrigued to hear that somebody else has had similar experiences.

And I'm with you, I rather enjoy them when they do occur. Yet, they have been occurring quite seldom lately.


I think you're just going through the process of waking up your conciousness and kundalini energy if you're into all that Smile

if it ever makes you anxious to have them, just stop tripping and smoking for a while, they will go away.
 
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#15 Posted : 9/2/2014 1:27:52 AM

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deathsanus wrote:
Enlightened_One wrote:

Ah! Very happy now this sounds awfully familiar.

I'm intrigued to hear that somebody else has had similar experiences.

And I'm with you, I rather enjoy them when they do occur. Yet, they have been occurring quite seldom lately.


I think you're just going through the process of waking up your conciousness and kundalini energy if you're into all that Smile

if it ever makes you anxious to have them, just stop tripping and smoking for a while, they will go away.


Oh yes, I've come a long way spiritually since these occurred. Maybe I wasn't clear enough but these were first experienced 5 years ago. Its nothing of a worry but definitely something to ponder.

Since I am am new to posting on the Nexus (been on here for years though) I just thought I would start my stories and experiences from the beginning. It'll be a long journey on here alone... Thumbs up
 
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Does anyone ever notice the technicolor fairy in their eyesight? It is very small but you can see it from time to time.

A lot of my mid-level experiences with spice produce a very small technicolor "fly" in the enormousity of my closed eye vision, it avoids detection by consistently moving about, kind of like how a floater on your vision would react. I have noticed a similar "fly" just when meditating as well, I try to consider this as a "hole-in-the-wall" to another dimension, i.e. your third eye. I wish I could grab ahold of the two sides of this "fly" and bear a hole large enough for me to travel to this other dimension, I believe that spice is the crowbar that lets you open this hole.

If anything I would consider your rushes to be a form of PTSD.
 
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#17 Posted : 9/3/2014 2:20:03 AM

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You might have a cataract. I have noticed a phenomenon like you've described for my entire life, and I have a cataract.
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