There have been some breakthroughs that seem to happen extremely fast. There is no Chrysanthemum that I can see im just instantly in another place. It completely skips this step and throws me right into hyperspace.

edit: Mostly happens with larger doses btw

Is this common with anyone else?

What's you're smoking method and what is a high dose for you ??

I completely blacked out during the entrance into hyperspace on 50mg (approx). Ive noticed, from others experiences as well, that it seems like the mind can get flooded with too much info to process when taking a larger dose than your used to as well as just a large dose.

Myself and others experience super high speed hyperspace under these circumstances as well. It gets confusing sometimes and everything seems like its in fast forward. Over time i think you can acclimate and then it should just be a higher dimension of hyperspace.

50mg
out of the green Buddha gvg equivalent 2 hits does the trick of straight freebase

So it sounds like a really high dose is what happens, it just floods the brain too quickly from what it sounds like?

I'm gunna have to get a vapourizer as my smoking style is EL through a bong and I'm just going through so much dmt as it's just not economic for me ! 50mg wow I'm wasting so much , I have to be or does anyone else find with changa you've got to have a huge dose ??

Ya definitely. A friend of mine dosed 25mg after having only ever dosed 20 and below. For him the experience was super high speed craziness and he wasn't able to interpret any of it. Early in my DMT use I dosed 45mg (probably didnt vape it all) and the same type of thing happened to me. The visuals were happening way too fast, I didnt know what was going on the whole time and all i could do was laugh.

I don't recommend that high of dose, but if it is something you have done, and wish to pursue it then back off a little (lower dose slightly) and I believe eventually your mind will adjust and be able to intake the flood.



It depends on what you mean by huge dose. With changa the dosage changes a bit, especially if your adding harmala. 50mg of freebase DMT is a pretty hectic ride no matter what, unless your one of those people that dose huge or have a natural tolerance. Most people just arent vaping it all, as usually at that level things are pretty nuts.

That sounds about right, ill back the dose down 10mg, and start from there. I love how it just throws you but I love the geometric pattern as well lol it was pretty intense but I never blacked out I remember the trip quite well. I was just instantly somewhere else lol .

Ya the larger doses strike much more viciously. They dont give you a whole lot of time to do anything, all of a sudden your just there. The 50 of freebase was really intense and I was able to remember the entire thing pretty much. I woke up in a loop then became god, then freaked out. Pretty crazy. I won't be doing that again tho LOL.

THe blackout was just the entrance, I dont remember the onset. I laid down and felt something that told me I was screwed. Then LOOP... LOOP... ect.

It depends on what you mean by huge dose. With changa the dosage changes a bit, especially if your adding harmala. 50mg of freebase DMT is a pretty hectic ride no matter what, unless your one of those people that dose huge or have a natural tolerance. Most people just arent vaping it all, as usually at that level things are pretty nuts.[/quote]


Yeah no I'm dosing with my EL ratio 1:1 I'm having a 220mg = 110mgdose and in just chewing through my dmt like nothing and I no my dmt is very pure as everyone else has smaller cones of say 80-100 40-50 mg !!

LOL o crap lol been there before, I had one pretty insane as well, I saw my body compress into a cell, then to a molecule, then to an atom, then to a singularity, had no idea what was going on but kept my cool the best I can, and meditated in total darkness of space, floating questioning my existence, wandering where my "soul" started from, began, lol. Realized I was god as well, then came back with ideas, that one, I remember quite well lol.

I really want this cocktail, I would add extracted rue seed alkaloids in addition to the dmt, or just drink the tea from the rue seeds wait a half hour then have my session. I find free base is the way to go I feel changa burns too much of your product, imo. But if you have the dmt to "burn" then changas not a bad route either. Believe me, I as well as the next love changa, but free base seems to be the way to go with me There is no smoke, only vapor.

But changa always has a different "flavor" for the trip not necessarily the flavor but how it behaves. Freebase seems to be the "raw experience" imo.

But 110mg dose! That sounds like your really burning your special magic. How are the exp. Earthwalker? Are you combining with an maoi as well?

This happens to me every time I have tried DMT, 3 hits on the bong from any of my blends and close my eyes and within 1 second I am there, I have been trying a few different blends etc to get some context and experience and will post trip reports etc soon, but so far by the time I have cleared the bong and closed my eyes and gotten comfortable on the sofa I am in a super high definition morphing digital type space with anything from fractals and mosaics to visions of strange beings although none have yet seemed an entity more like an automaton copy of one, or a hologram depiction of one. with my limited experience (5 different days 2 days with multiple doses and 1 day on the back of a mild aya trip) every time has been intensely interesting but I am yet to feel its spiritual nature which is what I had hoped its always seemed like crazy madness with a cheeky fun vibe or intellectual arthouse feel.

smallest dose 50mg enhanced leaf mixed 1:1
largest dose 160mg again all mixed 1:1, strong changa from my blends in a mix up of Blue Jazz 5%, Electric Sheep 5% and 90% PileofCosmicLions (blend mix intructions can be found in the "how does your change look like" part of the Changa forum)

Hope this helps.

Yeah.. haha

Typically it's with a large dose done in one breath for me, to where, as SOON as I take the full dose and and id say about after 3/4 of the dose is inhaled, there is NO buildup, and it takes all but 'maybe' 2 seconds, but essentially instantaneous.

I've also had many experiences where id do a larger dose in 2 hits, where the first hit begins the process, then by the second hit, as soon as I take it in, everything in my immediate vicinity drops away in a waterfall of jeweled light and I GONE.

Yup