Hi all

So i've read a few threads on using the volcano for freebase crystal and one on changa and there seems to be some mixed opinions...
i've been smoking changa through a bong for the past few years with success but after A very difficult mushroom experience about a year ago every time I smoke changa i'm too scared/worried to hit it as hard as I used to. at around 08:30 this morning I tried smoking 50mg of a 2:1(caapi base) changa and as usual started getting worried at around 10 seconds after inhaling and exhaled leading to a very subtle experience.

I decided to try 80mg in my volcano classic to see if it's possible to have a less instant cross-over. I set it to the highest temp and filled a bag almost completely full. The vapor tasted amazing, the first few draws seemed to taste much more like caapi than spice... I managed to keep every draw for at least 15 seconds before exhaling and after the second thought I had wasted 80mg of a very nice batch... After the third or fourth draw I was suddenly "THERE
and had a bit of a fright as it was very unexpected.

There was no come-up or feeling of strong gravity or feeling like my face is being pulled like I usually get when I smoke it. It felt exactly like the part of an ayahuasca journey just after the come-up. I didn't have a complete break-through but I was able to see my life from a much more clear perspective with lots of huforia... After getting my heart rate down and relaxing I started enjoying the experience and kept vaping for maybe 90 minutes more. Over all I vaped 150mg but the experience went on for the next 3-4 hours for some reason. I didn't have any more insights/visuals after 30min of the last baloon of vapor but I had a very intense stoned/sedated feeling for a few hours more. Could the stoned/sedated feeling be the Caapi?

I had an amazing time but don't think i'll do this again for a few weeks as I ended up spending much more time with it than I planned for. Also I didn't have the usual afterglow I get from smoking it through a bong, but the stoned feeling was quite enjoyable as well. Over all I think this is the way i'll do it in the future as I think I learned much more from the experience than a 5 minute bong experience. So i'm guessing a different base might be better for this as well to avoid the Caapi effect? Has anyone else experienced this with Caapi as well?

This is awesome, I was actually searching the net for anyone who's had luck with this vaporizer, I found results but no answers. An hour later: this

I've been experimenting with a smoke that's DMT infused into some black tea. Do you usually have good luck with it?

Hi 1Ce Funny how things sync up sometimes This was the first time I tried the volcano. My first bowl was 80mg and the second was 50mg. i'm sure you could have a full break through with maybe 150-200mg if that's what you are looking for but at this small dose it was like a very deep meditation with a lot of insights and nice colours... The only thing that became difficult after a few hours was the stoned feeling which i've never experienced from smoking it, maybe the vaporizer extracts the caapi mao-i's better than a flame not sure... Black tea sounds interesting how has your experience with it been so far? I think i'll use peppermint leaf next time to try avoid the heavy sedation...

Take a look at this thread.

I use darjeelings black tea since it's high in mao-i. I havent got to play with it much but the bowl I packed sent me on a nice journey! Not a break through dose. I think a bong rip would rip me out of this world for sure.

What has my interest is the adjustable temp for the volcano, could J just keep increasing it until my dmt melts?

Wanted to also vouch for the volcano being a good method. I've got the digital and the liquid pad that it came with is PERFECT for vaping spice. I turn it up to the 400's(F) and it vaporizes the instant I turn on the convection, and the vapor is much more thick than cannabis'. It's a really noob-friendly way to do it, as you don't have to worry about lighting it or spilling bowls as you come up. Even when I'm 3 hits in and can't see anymore my hand can easily find its way to my mouth and continue the dose. Hits very smooth, much less irritation than when smoked. The only issue is the standard oven bag's capacity is prob 5-8 inhales, so you almost always have some vapor leftover that you can't finish in time. But the increased efficiency relaxes the need to finish it all, half can be enough when held in properly.

I'd say a bong is still best for smoking because of how much you can concentrate the hits, but the volcano is my choice anyway. Actually pharmahuasca is my preference these days, vaping almost feels like a waste. But if you can make it last 3-4 hours with 200mg changa, that sounds very useful. There was another report of someone smoking changa and making it last 3-4 hours by smoking AA cannabis on top of it and bathing in that dreamstate. They called it the hexolit method and I think the post got removed but sounds legit. Would be interesting to know more about which factor is really increasing the duration.

From what I am understanding burnt dmt is denatursed dmt. Perhaps since far less is wasted the effective dose is substantially smaller than what we're used to. I'm going to try the sandwich method with 50mg and fresh mint leaves tonight. I think I'll search around for good deals on a volcano

I need a new centrifuge, so the challenge for me is which to buh first(:

Thanks for the link Swinjin. Icon have you ever tried changa in your volcano? 1Ce I just put it at the highest temp (temp 9 on volcano classic) I didn't have any burnt spice at all it was as smooth as taking a deep breath... I split 200mg of the same 2:1 caapi base changa between 2 friends yesterday, the one was very close to a complete breakthrough and the other hardly felt it (I think she didn't take big enough hits and/or didn't keep it long enough though). They both had the intense body buzz for quite sometime after so I guess it has to be the caapi.

I've tried changa out of the volcano, but was a bit disappointed as well. The best way changa has worked for me is in a blunt with weed. The casual rotation of the hits seems to work perfectly to slowly crank up the level, and the maoi keeps it around long enough to multiply the effects as you go. I don't remember how much changa we put in, but it got ~4 of us on a brilliant level together for 30 minutes, we couldn't even finish the blunt. With changa, it's not as much about the quick, huge hits; rather steady, continuous ones.