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Al-Wasi
#1 Posted : 5/22/2014 4:35:25 PM

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Will be performing my first extract shortly but have a few questions. I'm.certain I will use one of cybs teks to do this. I'm curious about the stated yields though.

I've noticed most other teks state about a .5 yield. Cybs max ion says a theoretical 3 percent and the other salt tek states 2 percent. The salt ten says that from 50g mhrb yield of one gram can be expected and actually shows with pictures that 50 yielded .8 after only three pulls.

I know this all has to do with the alkaloid content of bark you have but does the teks cyb wrote truly produce that much more superior yield then say vovin or marosfold which state only .5. Marosfold specifically states a yield of 2.5g out of a pound of bark can be expected.

I'm also curious as to whether its better to do multiple 50gram extracts or one big one? I've searched the forums here and have found conflicting info. In one place I read doing it in smaller batches is better and in another place a thread states that a larger extract makes for more saturation and better yields.

Any help would be great.
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#2 Posted : 5/22/2014 4:42:34 PM

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Cyb's Max Ion Tek uses a few more precise steps and materials, in order to get the most possible DMT out.

It seems that teks with less yield are that way because the steps are fewer, easier, or that there is more leniency with the materials used.

That's my understanding anyway.

Also with the small or big batch thing, I'm not exactly sure, but I would say you should probably get familiar with the extraction process with smaller batches, so that if you mess up, you've messed up with less money into it.

Cheers!

I'm curious to see your results!
 
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#3 Posted : 5/22/2014 5:07:24 PM

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You can ONLY extract as much alkaloid content as the bark has onboard.
If the bark has 2% onboard...that is what you will extract with the right tek.
If it has more...you can extract more. ...Less...you will extract less.

MHRB appx 2%
ACRB appx 1-1.5%

The maximum yieldage I have seen on the Nexus is 2.5%. (3% is theoretical, dependent ONLY on the quality of the bark)
A lot of variables affect the alkaloid content of bark...climate, harvest times, species, age, stress etc.

Older teks used slightly differing processes. Salt is a fairly new introduction and potentates the transfer of alkaloid to NPS. Therefore giving greater ability to extract ALL that the bark has to offer.

Larger extractions CAN use the same process (MAX ION, ATB)...BUT...the the ingredient amounts will differ of course.

NOTE: They are NOT just 'doubled up' exponentially...that is NOT how extractions work.

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#4 Posted : 5/23/2014 6:06:43 PM
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Ok, so if we cant just double up the igredients, what should we take in account to calculate, say.. 100g root extraction?
 
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#5 Posted : 5/23/2014 8:18:36 PM

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Worm Hoe wrote:
Ok, so if we cant just double up the igredients, what should we take in account to calculate, say.. 100g root extraction?


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#6 Posted : 8/24/2014 3:31:58 PM

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I usually get 1.5% using an A/B tek. I don't really follow any tek anymore.

But a yield of 0.5% is really bad. Are there really tek's out there saying you get that out of it?
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#7 Posted : 8/24/2014 7:57:04 PM

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DMTripper wrote:
I usually get 1.5% using an A/B tek. I don't really follow any tek anymore.

But a yield of 0.5% is really bad. Are there really tek's out there saying you get that out of it?


Yes. The earlier A/B teks, vovins, marsofolds, etc. They are on the site.
 
 
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