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Earthwalker's ACRB tek: fresh naphtha for pulls, removing NPS for defat Options
 
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#1 Posted : 8/23/2014 1:09:03 AM

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Greetings, I am using Earthwalker's ACRB tek for my first extraction but just wanted to confirm a few things before I begin. I apologize for starting a new thread or if this question is misplaced. Being newly registered I apparently cannot post in the extraction subforum.

When doing multiple pulls in step 4, new/fresh naphtha should be used for each pull correct? So pipette the non-polar top layer to a jar. Then add new/fresh naphtha, mixing three times like before, then pipette into the same collection jar containing the previously pulled naphtha. I am just unsure because I thought I read somewhere else to re-use the same saturated naphtha but I have read so many teks recently.

Now for the defat, the top naphtha layer should be removed and discarded correct? That is, do the opposite from the previous step as the bottom aqueous layer now contains the alkaloids.

I appreciate any assistance, thank you very much!
 

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#2 Posted : 8/23/2014 1:46:35 AM

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You'r good about naphta and defat.

You can reuse your naphta after freeze precipitation or salting so there's no more (or not much) DMT left in it.

This [FAQ - All your basic questions and answers] is a good place for this kind of questions Wink



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#3 Posted : 8/23/2014 2:29:18 AM

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Thanks for your reply! Sorry, I thought that forum was for posting frequently asked questions and wasn't sure if my questions were frequent or not. Pleased
Edit: I see the "official extraction help thread" now, wups!

Also, I forgot to confirm for the last pull after defatting, I pipette out the top layer into a baking pan for freeze precipitating, correct? Now the milky bottom layer does not contain DMT. I believe this is correct but don't see where it specifies this in the tek. Thank you again!
 
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#4 Posted : 8/23/2014 4:24:26 AM

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I put Earthwalker's tek up on the wiki in step by step format: http://www.anoniem.org/?...%27s_Hybrid_ATB_Salt_Tek

If I did anything against the rules here or customs please let me know and I will fix it asap.

Earthwalker, if you read this please know I wanted to send you a message first but apparently new members cannot send messages to other members. Thank you for posting your tek! Let me know if you want anything changed or even want it removed. I understand completely either way. Also, I wasn't sure about the name so I just used a similar one to what you said you based your tek off of.

Graciously,
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#5 Posted : 8/23/2014 11:44:22 PM

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I noticed an admin deleted the wiki article. I didn't see an explanation but I'm guessing it is because I did something wrong. I apologize.


So this is what I will be doing, based off of Earthwalker's tek. This is just his tek but I saw some parts were left out or maybe just implied. Either way, as a newbie I had some difficulty following some parts of his post so I re-organized it in step by step format like a recipe.

I would be forever indebted to anyone who could look this over real quick and double check that I did not misinterpret anything. Thank you very much!


== Step 1: Freeze/Thawing ==
1) Add 100 g ACRB powder to 2 L bottle.
2) Add 500 mL water (tap is fine), gently swirling until thoroughly mixed.
3) Place bottle in freezer until mixture is completely frozen (can take 6 hours or more).
4) Once frozen, remove bottle and allow to thaw. Use hot water bath to speed the thawing process.
5) Once thawed, leave in hot water bath for 2 hours at around 50 C or until the mixture is the same temperature as the hot water bath.
6) Freeze again for a total of 3 freeze/thaw cycles.

== Step 2: Acidifying ==
1) Add vinegar for pH of 2 - 3 (50 - 60 mL) and allow this to sit in heat bath for 1 - 1/2 hours, gently mixing occasionally.
2) Gently swirl, careful not to create an emulsion by causing bubbles or aeration.

== Step 3: Salting ==
1) Measure out 80 g salt and dissolve in 400 mL of hot water to make dissolving easier.
2) Add an additional 600 mL water to the saline solution.
3) Add the saline solution to the acidic mixture in the 2 L bottle. The 2 L bottle should contain about 1.5 L so far.

== Step 4: Basifying ==
1) Measure 50 g lye and SLOWLY add it to 300 mL COLD water in a well-ventilated area. Do not pour water onto lye!
2) When the lye is dissolved, add it to the acidic saline soup that's in the 2 L bottle. It will go almost black.
3) Top off the 2 L, leaving sufficient room for naphtha to pull (about 50 mL). The pH should now be over 12.
4) Place the basic 2 L mixture in a warm water bath for at least 2 hours, gently mixing occasionally.
5) Remove after 2 hours and optionally allow to cool before proceeding. Some say to add naphtha when warm but this doesn't matter for this tek as we're doing a defat.

== Step 5: Adding Naphtha ==
1) Warm about 400 mL of naphtha INDIRECTLY in a hot water bath. Naphtha is highly flammable so do not use direct heat or open flames.
2) Add 50 mL of the warmed naphtha to the 2 L bottle mixture, mixing/shaking gently for a good 45 - 60 seconds, being sure the naphtha reaches all parts of the dark mixture.
3) Allow it to separate fully (can take 3 to 5 minutes).
4) Repeatedly mix/shake again for a total of three times.

== Step 6: Initial Pull ==
1) Once the mixture is fully separated into two layers, pipette out the top non-polar (naphtha) layer with a glass pipette/syrine/baster. Be extremely careful not to disturb the bottom dark red layer or get any dark red specs in with the pulls.
2) Collect all pulled naphtha in a single glass container. It now contains the DMT.
3) Repeat this step at least 5 - 6 consecutively times, adding fresh warm naphtha each time.

== Step 7: Defatting ==
1) Create an acidic solution with around 500 mL of water and a pH of 2 to 3 like in step 2.
2) Add this 500 mL acidic solution to a 1 L glass bottle with a narrow neck.
3) Pour the naphtha that has been pulled from the basic soup into the 1 L bottle with the new acidic solution.
4) Vigorously shake and allow to separate.
5) Repeating shake & separate for a total of ten times.
6) Now pipette out the top brown layer (naphtha) and discard as this contains the plant fats and oils. The bottom (clear) 500 mL acidic solution contains the DMT.

== Step 8: Mini A/B & Extraction ==
1) Measure 200 mL water and add 50 g lye to it, dissolving completely.
2) Pour this into the clear 500 mL acidic solution. It will turn white immediately.
3) Top off the 1 L bottle with additional water, leaving about 50 mL for naphtha as in Step 4.
4) Add 50 mL of fresh naphtha and vigorously shake. Allow to separate and repeat for a total of 5 times at least.
5) Pipette out the top layer, transferring it to a large glass baking dish for freeze precipitating.

== Step 9: Freeze Precipitating ==
1) Pre-evaporate with a fan blowing across the dish until half the liquid evaporates.
2) Cover the dish with plastic wrap or with anything that creates an airtight & watertight seal (like a large ziploc bag).
3) Freeze for 18+ hours so crystals will form.
4) After removing from freezer, drain excess naphtha from the dish into a jar.
5) Tilt dish on its side and face fan to dry for a couple of hours. Do this as quickly as possible.
6) After a couple of hours drying, crystals can be scraped for use.
7) Later pulls can be done until the bark is spent. Later pulls done singly don't require a defat and this is a good way of seeing if bark is still putting out.
 
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#6 Posted : 8/24/2014 1:51:42 AM

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I saw your wiki entry it was nicely done Im not sure why it was taken down maybe becasue it is cybs tek and that you didnt get express permission from cyb or EW to put it up.
It would be good if the 'back-salting' method of his mini a/b was put on as I dont think it has an entry on the wiki but thats for admin and EW to discuss.
 
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#7 Posted : 8/24/2014 5:07:54 AM

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Thanks! Yes I really would have liked to ask them for permission but am not allowed to message them or post in their threads. Basically I have no way to get in touch with them. So I decided to "be bold" as they say on Wikipedia. I have a lot of experience with wikis, especially Mediawiki (I even run my own). Please let me know if I can be of any use in this area here!

From a beginner's perspective, Earthwalker's tek looks different than Cyb's (I tried to combine the two and had a hard time) although I definitely see for the most part it's similar. The recipe format with only the steps makes it really easy to reference when actually doing it. I believe it would help other beginners like myself. Hence my desire for a wiki article.
 
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#8 Posted : 8/24/2014 5:15:40 AM

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aprobablewave wrote:
I noticed an admin deleted the wiki article. I didn't see an explanation but I'm guessing it is because I did something wrong. I apologize.


Ok so , aprovablewave , you have wrote this TEK up very well from what I see , I'm very happy that you wrote this TEK up on the wiki Big grin but it's not my TEK , never was , it's Cybs TEK , I just added a defat ! you must remember Cyb worked very hard to come up with this cutting edge TEK , it's a very simple TEK and that's what's so good about it , he published it on the nexus ! So I'm sorry but that's why proberly why The Traveler or a mod would have removed it ! I just added to the top of my thread a waver saying that it's not my TEK but Thank you for you're write up ! Thumbs up You have showed great understanding and a lot of effort and I'm sure we it all benefit from you as a member !Big grin Thumbs up

Btw You wrote it up better then I , so you should keep a copy of this to follow it as putting you're own little spin on it ! Peace EW Cool
 
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#9 Posted : 8/24/2014 10:29:37 AM

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Hello,

Recently we had a problem with a lot of spam being posted in the wiki, which were all mass deleted. It is possible your wiki tek was accidentally deleted during that time. If there was no spam, there is no reason why it should have been deleted. I´ve talked with Trav and 2 other mods and none of them know anything about your wiki post so it`s indeed probably a mistake. Sorry about that and feel free to post the tek again. Thank you for trying to contribute!

By the way, while new members cannot pm other people, they can pm any mods!

Be well!
 
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#10 Posted : 4/13/2015 1:30:46 PM

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Attempting Earthwalker Tek and as well as rewriting it so I can follow more easily. I came across this rewrite. I notice aprobablewave put the freeze/thaw in at the beginning.

The plan is to follow EW Tek as close as possible unless anyone chimes in and tells me the Freeze/Thaw is worth it?

Any comments would be gratefully appreciated.
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#11 Posted : 4/13/2015 1:39:33 PM

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kingofsnakes wrote:
Any comments would be gratefully appreciated.


Have a look at this Cyb's 'MAX ION' tek.
Hopefully you will get more of an insight into Freeze/Thaw Wink
If you can't see the pdf (due to being a seedling) I will upload it on this post.
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#12 Posted : 4/13/2015 1:47:26 PM

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I love this community, that was a response in under 2 minutes. Thanks Cyb, I'll get reading tonight. Props on all the info you've given so far in extraction methods.

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