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#1 Posted : 8/12/2014 10:33:09 AM

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Hello,

I have lately extensively researched DMT and the plants that contain it. But up until recently I was thinking if all living things have DMT then could it be possible for an archetype of aquatic plants that has traces of this kind. Shulgin mentions in Tihkal about a sponge like plant of some sort, that has DMT. I don't know why i'm so curious about this esoteric subject but is there is one it would be a kind of lily of some sort.

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#2 Posted : 8/14/2014 2:12:06 AM

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I think I remember a species of Phalaris grass contains DMT. Plus there's the Colorado River Toad in which people lick for DMT. I'm not really sure about sea dwelling DMT. I would guess there would be a lack of research due to the uninhabitable environment. Interesting thought though.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/15/2014 3:34:59 AM

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As far as I know, the "every living thing contains DMT" idea is a myth. It is incredibly widespread in the plant kingdom, and many animals contain trace amounts of DMT, but I don't think it is ubiquitous.

Check out this thread for information on sea sponges which contain analogues of DMT.

Several different species of Phalaris grass produce DMT and other psychoactive tryptamines.

Bufo alvarius, or the Colorado River Toad, produces a venom which contains mostly 5-MeO-DMT and bufotenine (5-HO-DMT). The toad-licking thing is a myth though. Some people do collect, dry, and smoke the venom of Bufo alvarius, but licking it would be much less effective.
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#4 Posted : 8/15/2014 3:37:23 AM

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#5 Posted : 8/15/2014 3:54:58 AM

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Entheogenerator wrote:
As far as I know, the "every living thing contains DMT" idea is a myth. It is incredibly widespread in the plant kingdom, and many animals contain trace amounts of DMT, but I don't think it is ubiquitous.

The problem is that when people here "XYZ contains DMT," the assumption that people seem to make is that the DMT is there serving some kind of purpose. As far as I know, there's no evidence of this, at least in animals (Bufo Alvarius notwithstanding).

Barker, McIlhenny and Strassman did an analysis of all the studies on the presence of N,N-DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and 5-HO-DMT in human beings and the numbers aren't looking good for the theory that DMT plays some integral role in the human brain. Generally <50% of subjects had measurable quantities of psychedelic tryptamines in their systems, and those that had it only showed it on a nanogram scale.

My current theory is that it's biological white noise. Randomly generated by the biosynthesis and metabolism of other tryptamine analogues (like 5-HT, melatonin, etc).

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