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Hypernoid
#1 Posted : 8/13/2014 5:59:36 AM

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SWIM did a first-ever extraction yesterday.

SWIM chose an ACRB - A/B tek.

The first pull, SWIM let sit at room temp, in a dark, cool closet. 12 hours later, there was just a thin layer of goo type skin on the bottom of the jar. SWIM filtered it out, it wasnt even a gram.

SWIM was then very bummed out, and armed with only knowledge that SWIM had learned from studying about extractions the past two weeks, SWIM decided to put the jar in the freezer.
12 hours later, approximately 4 grams of off white/tan clumps of parmesan cheeze substance was pulled from the naphtha.

SWIM was very pleased.

SWIM then immediately re-used the saturated naphtha, and went for another pull. SWIM decided to skip the room temperature precipitation (correct terminology? Apologies if not...) and put the jar straight in the freezer.

After just 2 hours in the freezer, there is already a pretty pretty deep layer of the same above described substance.

SWIM was even more pleased.

SWIM then checked on the first pull's harvest. SWIM checked it for any traces of Naphtha odor, and it was gone.

SWIM tried smoking a tiny little piece of his harvest, and SWIM became very, very happy. He had an incredible sensation, peaceful, relaxing, and visuals of beautiful geometric patterns and colors accompanied by these interrogative thoughts about SWIM's life.

SWIM has read many posts about "breaking through", and SWIM is very aware that he didn't use even a 1/3 of what the recommended dosage would be, but he has definitely had a glorious taste of a mild DMT experience is like, and SWIM is now very excited to enjoy the harvest in all it's glory, but SWIM wants to wait until he has someone experienced with him before he attempts to "break throught." SWIM has broken through once before, a few years ago, the first and only time he ever smoked DMT, and it was quite a moving experience and is not sure he would like to come back to reality and find himself alone as last time the company that awaited him really made things amazing as he had someone to share what had happened with, and was far too excited to be alone.

SWIM is very proud with what has happened on his first extraction, as SWIM went into this with zero knowledge of chemistry and extractions. It has, thus far, been an immensely rewarding sensation for SWIM, and he is proud of his hard work as spent a great amount of time and effort collecting materials and putting all the love and good intentions behind his hopes to yield a good harvest.

SWIM just wants to know a few things:

Does the harvest's description sound normal for a 1kg ACRB extraction?

And should SWIM wait until his very experienced friend gets back home from vacation before SWIM attempts a break through, or would SWIM be safe to do by himself?

SWIM would really appreciate any constructive suggestions, and or criticisms.

SWIM would also like to apologize if he is posting incorrectly or in the wrong section, but he is a new member and cannot post anywhere else. He tried to post a similar post earlier, but was deleted by the Mod due to his wording perhaps, or revealing too much information. SWIM does not know, but is hoping that he can get some suggestions, answers, etc...
 

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#2 Posted : 8/13/2014 6:12:57 AM

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Yeild wise you should get anywhere from 8 to 14 even 16 grams it all depends on the bark quality !

I always have been alone explorer , so no sitter needed but if you're apprehensive it might be better to wait !

What TEK did you follow and did you do a defat also how much nps are you using per pull ??

Also there's no need to swim around here we all no it's you !!

Also in you're earlier post did you mention vendors or buying selling or procuring anything that's considered illegal ?
 
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#3 Posted : 8/13/2014 6:35:14 AM

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I used Joshisom's tek. I didn't do a defat, the first pull, i just let it sit in a dark cool closet in the apartment, but the yield was basically nothing but a thin, brown goo, and honestly, was barely enough to even try to weight.

Then the freezer happened, and bam, close to 4.5 grams!


Im not sure how i worded the previous post, was just very excited because after the room temp precip, i honestly thought i failed.

I am very curious though, I assumed the crystals were light , fluffy, and white. This substance looks nothing like crystals, but more like ungrated, chunk style parmesan lol.

So are mine crystals? or more like the goo, just solid. Im a total noob to this, I honestly can't believe i pulled off a successful extract! it just feels damn good to know that I can pull this off!

What could I do to make this better? Or is what I have the goal intended?

Either way, the small tiny bit that I tried a bit ago, was so beautiful, i can't imagine what a regular does, using a recommended pipe will be like.

BTW the one I tried earlier, I smoked off a stainless steel knife. like the old school hash style knife hits if your familiar..... SO im eager to give it a proper go!
 
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#4 Posted : 8/13/2014 7:20:26 AM

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IMO When working with acacia people are of the belief that a acid boils are needed to push the dmt out but the use of salt is a great tool to use and in combination with Cybs salt TEK there are no smelly acid boils needed and if you do the defat or mini ab on the nps at the end it will produce white fluffy dmt as shown here https://www.dmt-nexus.me...;t=58064&find=unread !! So you might like to look into that TEK !

But what you have there sounds like there chunky big crystals as the theory behind growing big crystals is the slower you cool down the naphtha ( ie; in the cupboard overnight then freezer ) the bigger the crystals grow !

Can you upload a pic ??

Also you did well , so good stuff ! I was excited on my first success aswell !Thumbs up
 
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#5 Posted : 8/13/2014 8:01:44 AM

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yeah, ill upload a few pics in an hour or so when my friend gets here... i have a really shitty phone, and the camera just blows... he has a proper iphone to get some clear photos.

ya know, thats what i heard about growing big xtals too, but when i tried to cool it slower, i.e, used the trick where you let the jar cool from a pan of warm water, i yielded barely nothing. it wasnt until i freeze precipitated it that i got the big chunky yellowish/tank cheese looking xtals. And, this jar I just put in 4 hours ago, is already about a half an inch deep with more!

maybe when i buy my next fresh batch of ACRB, ill try the other Tek that you speak of... because acid boils are a pungent, messy, step that I would love to never repeat. I would, however, endure them if my yield wasn't as high as this batch. Im willing to put in the work, and utilize every bit of my passion for this wonderful molecule, so whatever is necessary to keep this amazing feat on the loop, it will be braved with a big ass smile.

Pics will be incoming soon! thanks so much for your reply and suggestions!
 
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#6 Posted : 8/13/2014 8:02:56 AM

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SWIM should stay in the pool, and Earthwalker should change his name to "Cyb Salt Tek".

New day; same threads...

But good job on your success Hypernoid. Hope it goes well for you. Enjoy!
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#7 Posted : 8/13/2014 8:53:02 AM

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Poads wrote:
SWIM should stay in the pool, and Earthwalker should change his name to "Cyb Salt Tek".

New day; same threads...

But good job on your success Hypernoid. Hope it goes well for you. Enjoy!


I'm hardly Experianced enough to be put in the same category as Cyb so it boogles the mind you would even say that !

Or is this just another one of you're many digs at my post threads and topics ??
 
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#8 Posted : 8/13/2014 9:36:33 AM

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here is about 1/3 that i got from my first pull... what do you think? Good result/bad result? I am sorry for being such a noob, I just need to reassurance that i did ok for my first time -)
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Earthwalker
#9 Posted : 8/13/2014 9:49:37 AM

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Hypernoid wrote:
here is about 1/3 that i got from my first pull... what do you think? Good result/bad result? I am sorry for being such a noob, I just need to reassurance that i did ok for my first time -)


It doesn't look like anything I've seen before , but it looks very thick and dense so I'd make sure all signs of you're solvent is no longer there ! And if it's smokes like dmt it must be dmt !
 
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#10 Posted : 8/13/2014 11:43:27 AM

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it definitely smokes like dmt, and does exactly what it is intended to do -)

I think it needs more time for the solvent to gtfo though. the two samples ive used were completely devoid of solvent, but the rest still has some drying time im sure....

can anyone please tell me the absolute best way to dry it efficiently? If i keep it in the freezer, will the naphtha fade, or do i have to leave it out in open air? i have looked on the forums, even a freeze precipitation faq, but have not found a clear answer on an efficient method.

I was told to pour the Naphtha out of the jar into another jar, then take the jar that has the DMT in it and turn it upside down for the rest of the naptha to fall out, then let it dry. But, the part im lacking knowledge on is how exactly do you let the naptha evap out? just leaving the jar upside down? leaving the chunks that i harvested open air at room temp? or put back in freezer?

thanks for replies!
 
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#11 Posted : 8/13/2014 12:31:09 PM

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Earthwalker wrote:
Poads wrote:
SWIM should stay in the pool, and Earthwalker should change his name to "Cyb Salt Tek".

New day; same threads...

But good job on your success Hypernoid. Hope it goes well for you. Enjoy!


I'm hardly Experianced enough to be put in the same category as Cyb so it boogles the mind you would even say that !

Or is this just another one of you're many digs at my post threads and topics ??


Yeah I dont think there was any need for that comment seemed a bit unneccesary. EW helps people out by giving others tips so they dont make the same mistake as he did. Im sure many people appreciate it and he does it tirelessly if you have an issue with the ammount of same subject threads then simply move on to something that does interest you.

Hypernoid yes por off as much of the napha as you can into another jar and then in the dish with the extract the remaining naptha will drip down and evaporate leaving the crystals stuck to the glass, the cool fan aids the evaporation and drip off forcing some off then evaporating it.
You need air to circulate around the crystals and through the dish so you can either prop it up with a cup or something or put it on its side securely so the air flow from the fan bounces off it taking the solvent with it. I am sure there is a photo of a dish drying on Cybs PDF..
 
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#12 Posted : 8/13/2014 12:52:33 PM

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Hypernoid wrote:

SWIM would also like to apologize if he is posting incorrectly or in the wrong section, but he is a new member and cannot post anywhere else. He tried to post a similar post earlier, but was deleted by the Mod due to his wording perhaps, or revealing too much information. SWIM does not know, but is hoping that he can get some suggestions, answers, etc...


Your post haven't been deleted but moved to What the FAQ? Please Do Some Research... (for some reason ^^)



And to finish to dry the chunks, crush them on a plate and let that powder at room temp with a bit of air flow until there is no more smell of NPS.
« I love the smell of boiling MHRB in the morning »
 
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#13 Posted : 8/13/2014 4:33:19 PM

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Earthwalker wrote:
Poads wrote:
SWIM should stay in the pool, and Earthwalker should change his name to "Cyb Salt Tek".

New day; same threads...

But good job on your success Hypernoid. Hope it goes well for you. Enjoy!


I'm hardly Experianced enough to be put in the same category as Cyb so it boogles the mind you would even say that !

Or is this just another one of you're many digs at my post threads and topics ??


It's because Cyb's tek is all you ever talk about. If someone's extraction goes bad, you recommend Cyb's tek. If someone's extraction goes well, you recommend Cyb's tek. It's definitely a good tek, but you mention it more than Cyb himself!

And I've seen your extractions. They're great. If there's one thing you can do, it's extract a mean batch of crystals!

Update: Thanks for the PM Earthwalker! Good to see you hold grudges!
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#14 Posted : 8/13/2014 4:34:39 PM

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DreaMTripper wrote:
Earthwalker wrote:
Poads wrote:
SWIM should stay in the pool, and Earthwalker should change his name to "Cyb Salt Tek".

New day; same threads...

But good job on your success Hypernoid. Hope it goes well for you. Enjoy!


I'm hardly Experianced enough to be put in the same category as Cyb so it boogles the mind you would even say that !

Or is this just another one of you're many digs at my post threads and topics ??


Yeah I dont think there was any need for that comment seemed a bit unneccesary. EW helps people out by giving others tips so they dont make the same mistake as he did. Im sure many people appreciate it and he does it tirelessly if you have an issue with the ammount of same subject threads then simply move on to something that does interest you.


I can't. I'm still stuck in new member purgatory.
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#15 Posted : 8/13/2014 4:36:28 PM

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Hypernoid wrote:
it definitely smokes like dmt, and does exactly what it is intended to do -)

I think it needs more time for the solvent to gtfo though. the two samples ive used were completely devoid of solvent, but the rest still has some drying time im sure....

can anyone please tell me the absolute best way to dry it efficiently? If i keep it in the freezer, will the naphtha fade, or do i have to leave it out in open air? i have looked on the forums, even a freeze precipitation faq, but have not found a clear answer on an efficient method.

I was told to pour the Naphtha out of the jar into another jar, then take the jar that has the DMT in it and turn it upside down for the rest of the naptha to fall out, then let it dry. But, the part im lacking knowledge on is how exactly do you let the naptha evap out? just leaving the jar upside down? leaving the chunks that i harvested open air at room temp? or put back in freezer?

thanks for replies!


Crush into a powder, and let it evaporate. Looks like your extraction went very well.
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#16 Posted : 8/13/2014 4:40:56 PM

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I may be wrong (or colorblind) but it looks to have a mild pink/red to it, im not doubting your procedure, but during the pull you might of sucked up some of the base soup? Ive never seen dmt like that before, but like Earthwalker said if it smokes like dmt then it must be dmt lol.

A quick carb wash fixes this problem and refines your product better. Many of times I took this route lol
 
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#17 Posted : 8/13/2014 4:43:25 PM

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darklordsson wrote:
I may be wrong (or colorblind) but it looks to have a mild pink/red to it, im not doubting your procedure, but during the pull you might of sucked up some of the base soup? Ive never seen dmt like that before, but like Earthwalker said if it smokes like dmt then it must be dmt lol.

A quick carb wash fixes this problem and refines your product better. Many of times I took this route lol


I could be wrong, but I think that's just the lighting on the camera. It looks fine to me!
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Its weird cause I've never seen it in that kind of waxy form before as well, tripped me out lol but if its good, its good
 
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#19 Posted : 8/13/2014 7:14:04 PM

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I looked at Cyb's tek for the drying method, working well. I also noticed Cyb's is for MHRB, this was ACRB, does that make a difference in color, texture, etc, with end product? Just curious.

its not red or pink at all. it may be the lighting. it is a beige, off white-yellowish color. whats interesting to me is the one and only time i had ever smoked dmt before this extract, the dmt that my friend bought looked almost identical to this , only very dry and crumby. this batch, for sure, is not quite dry yet as i was a bit too intimidated to leave it out until i found the best method possible to dry it. i appreciate everyone's comments and help on this, i am just now harvesting the second pull from the freezer. question: wouldn;t putting a fan on the dmt that is not dry be dangerous? im just thinking that when it drys out real well, couldnt the fan blow some of the holy goodness that i am trying to keep also, for those of you who say you've never seen an end result like mine, what makes mine so different besides thinking it looked red or pink? It's definitely DMT, the samples gave me one hell of a ride, not a breakthrough, but when i closed my eyes i definitely had some very beautiful geometric shapes melding together...

the second sample was very interesting. I had my eyes closed and laid down. I was watching all of these crazy dodecahedron-esque type geometrical shapes fuse together and give birth to colorful little bursts of light. Then out of the bursts this thing started to wind its way through and took shape.
it was made up of what looked like millions of small playing cards with very odd characters scrawled on them. almost like asian font, but something else. it was like all these little square symbols on cards came together like a big shuffle of a deck, then had wings, and a tail... the best way to describe what it looked like would be a lion fish, but stretched out for the length of the walls of my mind. then it would slow motion writhe through the air, diving and dipping, and right before the vision ended, it turned to me and had a very lovely female face. not human, but not unlike a human. i know i didn't break through completely because it wasn't like the very first time i had done it when i went completely out and felt like i traveled, then woke up to find myself astonished that i was just in my friends living room. this was just what i could see when i closed my eyes.... it was very peaceful, very beautiful.

SO, it may look odd what i've pulled from my extraction, but i can vouch for it being DMT. im not sure what else it could be lol. unless my mind is even more over the cuckoo's nest than i assumed it was previous to the sampling.-)
 
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#20 Posted : 8/13/2014 8:44:12 PM

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Yes, that is indeed finely extracted DMT. The color you describe is spot-on. As I stated before, the image might appear pinkish because of the poor lighting. Congrats on your extraction; you did a fine job.

Pretty much any tek used for MHRB can also be used for ACRB. The extraction process is virtually the same. The only difference is the alkaloid content. MHRB is mostly pure DMT, while ACRB will contain NMT. Some users enjoy the NMT content, while others (such as myself) prefer to separate the NMT from the DMT. Unfortunately, that is easier said than done. That is why I prefer using MHRB over ACRB.

There have been reports of people using dry ice as a means of separating NMT from DMT. I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard good things about it. This might be worth looking into if you want pure DMT with no NMT.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy your crystals.
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