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Hypernoid
#1 Posted : 8/12/2014 9:33:41 AM

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Used Joshisom's Tek, followed it to a T, and ended up on my first pull with some yellow/brown gook on the coffee filter after straining the naphtha. Im not sure if i didnt let it sit long enough or if i simply messed up. Everything went exactly as he described in the Tek. So my question is how long does this have to sit on the filter before i can smoke it to see if i have DMT or not?

I dont really care about crystals at this point, i just want to make my own DMT regardless of how pretty, as long as it works, im happy.

Could this be DMT? or did I just waste money? I have the rest of the Naphtha in the freezer for the freeze precip, and I wont do my second pull until tomorrow after the 24 freeze window is up. I also have the shredded ACRB that i used in the freezer to do a few freeze thaws and then perform a few more acid boils.

any suggestions on how to make sure I get some yeild out of this ?

I am most eager though to see if this gook is DMT, so my main question would be how long to let this filter dry before i trry and smoke some?

Thank you very much for any replies
 

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Earthwalker
#2 Posted : 8/12/2014 3:23:33 PM

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Hypernoid wrote:

Could this be DMT? or did I just waste money? I have the rest of the Naphtha in the freezer for the freeze precip, and I wont do my second pull until tomorrow after the 24 freeze window is up. I also have the shredded ACRB that i used in the freezer to do a few freeze thaws and then perform a few more acid boils


Hi Hypernoid , you're wasting you're time freeze thawing the bark as if your've done the 3x acid boils you would have exhursted the bark already !!

Also it's not nessacery to do long acid boils , have you looked at Cybs salt TEK as it's so much more a noob friendly TEK ! Also why did you pour into a filter if there was no crystals ! And if you did pour the goop out I highly suspect it's not goo but contamination as goo will stick to the glass dish not float about in the nps !

With the yeild question , you can only get out what the bark holds meaning if your've done the extraction properly it's proberly possible the bark you gave is of low quality !

Also check this TEK out https://www.dmt-nexus.me...;t=58064&find=unread

This is the same as Cybs TEK but it has a simple defat step that's shaw to get out all the fats and oils that acacia is known for !
 
nexusdisciple
#3 Posted : 8/12/2014 3:26:04 PM
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Ugh.. I took a glance at the tek you were talking about and if I understand correctly the yellowish/brown "gook" you have is now in the filter? If this is anything like the acacia goo I have worked with than a paper filter is a terrible place to have it. It most likely is DMT/NMT, but I would wash the filter with either acetone or IPA and evaporate that on something glass where you can scrape it up for retrieval.

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any suggestions on how to make sure I get some yeild out of this ?


You've only done the one pull so far, correct? Wait until you see what crashes out in the freezer and do some more pulls before worrying about yields. You will likely get a respectable yield if your bark wasn't bunk. I've personally never had much luck with getting alks to fall out of ACRB laden naphtha at room temperature but I know others have. You will likely get more in future pulls as well as from your solvent in the freezer. The only other tip I have for ACRB extraction is that heat baths have been essential to me for decent yields where heat has proven optional for MHRB.

Just be patient and continue with your extraction. Good things come to those who wait. Also, even if you think you screwed up sometime never throw anything away as the goodies are probably just hiding someplace.
 
darklordsson
#4 Posted : 8/12/2014 4:05:12 PM

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nexusdisciple wrote:
Just be patient and continue with your extraction. Good things come to those who wait. Also, even if you think you screwed up sometime never throw anything away as the goodies are probably just hiding someplace.


Patience and practice, you'll get it dude. Just as ^^he said. Jungle spice (brown gook), there is nothing wrong with. But if its your first pull keep going. Just add the naptha to the percip plate/jar and room percip first then freeze, (no coffee filter, ive had luck just pouring the solution off the top) but when I go for freeze percip now, I just get some of the 2nd grade dmt from my pulls, may not be as pure but they are white fluffy crystals. Hardly get jungle spice any more. Measurement is pretty crucial if you want the biggest bang for your buck. I use isoms tech every time with great success. As close to "perfect" measuring ratio as you can. How much are you using of ACRB? and are you scaling down the measurements? 1 kilo is a lot to work with. And I found if you use a fan for evap, it melts your precious crystals...

Also to smoke, wait until that petroleum smell exists no more. Otherwise your smoking lighter fluid.

Lemme know any other questions. If you got em. Have fun and most of all be safe!

Namaste,
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Winemaker
#5 Posted : 8/12/2014 5:49:38 PM
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I have to reply because SWIM's dealt with the exact same thing. First off, he scrapes the goop off the filter as soon as there's no loose solvent floating around in the filter. Then he's just left the goop on a bottle cap (mason jar cap, so it's big enough) and let to dry.

He did this quite a few times, and ended up pulling a total of 10-ish grams of goop. It didn't look like a lot, but the weight didn't lie. Remember that goop weighs a lot more per volume than xtals.

Anyways, SWIM took the combined goop harvest and he dropped it into a combination of vinegar/water/pure ascorbic acid (comes in a powder). It was a ph of 4.5 but SWIM has found that it was a little low, but it worked anyway.

He let it sit in a heat bath, shaking it every once in a while, until all the goop dissolved. Then he noticed there were a bunch of miniscule bubbles coming up in the solution. He assumed it to be oxygen from the redox, which is caused by the ascorbic acid.

Anyways, after a half hour, the bubbles stopped and SWIM went on to do a de-fat. Took a couple applications, but the solvent turned DARK orange, after absorbing fats. He did this until the solvent didn't take on any more colour. Took four-ish times of profuse shaking/settling/shaking/settling/decanting.

The result from this was, after basing, pretty much WHITE xtals. There's still some fats that were missed, but that can be dealt with later. It settles into one corner of the freeze precip dish, if put in the fridge and freezer at an angle.

Hope this helps!
 
 
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