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nodomreaj
#1 Posted : 8/10/2014 1:26:39 PM
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So my friend extracted DMT from mimosa hostillis a short while ago using the easy tek with base water and something like heptane or hexane.(dont know the tek name)
Either way my friend was pretty confident about the extraction. Hes a decent chemist and the end product was beautifull dry white crystals that had the distinct DMT smell according to others.
So he smoked some (40 mg) in a freebase pipe for the first time. As soon as the trip started he was feeling like vomiting and sweating all over his body which kinda held him back in fully relaxing into the trip because he was worrying about where to vommit if he had too.
The visual when he closed his eyes were alright. Rainbowcolored dome with rivers and stuff the body experience was just bad.

Noe ive red a few tripreport and i barely ever read anything about nausea or sweating.
Is it possible that the DMT was impure? He still has quite a bit leftover. Whats your opinion?
 

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#2 Posted : 8/10/2014 4:03:56 PM
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Diet can play a role, you need to eat health and go threw a mini detox first.

and, if you are using Bestine Solvent and Thinner as your source of Heptane that could be the problem. I dont really know but i will never use Heptane again unless i can get lab grade.
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#3 Posted : 8/10/2014 6:48:10 PM
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I have found that purity of your dmt indeed affects the 'purity' of the trip. I had some contams and used a dirty pipe, it made me feel very anxious and like i didn't want it at all. I've tripped quite a bit but never ever had that feeling except that time. It made me quit smoking dmt. I find pharmahuasca much nicer.
 
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#4 Posted : 8/10/2014 10:20:00 PM

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I have had nausea aand actual vomiting few times, sometimes out of pure shock, sometimes I have been silly enough to go in tipsy, other times through burning it.

I will go for the fact you used a freebase pipe to do the work. Burning spice is not nice. The oil burner [bulb] or whatever you may call it, as well as many traditional pipes are great at pyrolizing spice rather than vaporizing it.

It is possible to use traditional pipes and bongs to vape properly (try sandwiching and keeping the flame a good distance from the bowl) but it may take you some work to get technique down. If you are using the bulb pipe I would switch to a different pipe, it is notoriously bad. Maybe look at the machine or the [G]VG (I only have experience with the GVG, I have not tried the machine, the GVG still takes some work to get technique down but it is highly unlikely you will ever burn anything).
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#5 Posted : 8/12/2014 8:49:54 PM
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IANS wrote:
Diet can play a role, you need to eat health and go threw a mini detox first.

and, if you are using Bestine Solvent and Thinner as your source of Heptane that could be the problem. I dont really know but i will never use Heptane again unless i can get lab grade.


So I'm thinking about replacing it for something else on my next pull. I heard Ether is a pretty solid choice. Now I got acces to quite some lab-stuff. Would you advice anything else?
 
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#6 Posted : 8/12/2014 8:56:18 PM

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Ether is quite dangerous. It has a very low boiling point compared to heptane, making it extremely flammable. Also, it slowly forms explosive peroxides which can make evaporation of significant quantities quite hazardous. Not to mention its anaesthetic properties.

Sweating and nausea can be part of a fear response, or they may result from travel sickness...




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#7 Posted : 8/13/2014 1:46:41 AM

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I am still of the opinion that burning it is very likely the reason for your issues. Vaping well is not something you will be likely to get down first time round, likewise freebase pipes are not very good for spice.

I have never had a need for detox prior to spice in over 6 years of work with it, simply not eating too much or drinking too much (alcohol or otherwise) too close to work seems to be fine to me. Furthermore, most of us here have used non-lab grade naphtha, heptane and hexane without issue.

downwardsfromzero also brings up good points. I have had some very quirky physical responses which I have atributed to shock, fear and motion sickness.
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#8 Posted : 8/31/2014 3:50:06 AM

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Ive heard that accidentally "swallowing" the vapor can cause nausea, I haven't experienced it personally though.
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#9 Posted : 8/31/2014 8:17:15 PM
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I came to comment regarding diet and overall health being a factor contributing to poor effects such as these.

I see IANS has already mentioned this as a possibility, but wanted to share I used to get unwanted effects similar to these. I took quite a long break from the generally unhealthy lifestyle I was living, and since have felt no ill effects.

Could be a coincidence, but just wanted to share my experience regarding this.
 
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#10 Posted : 9/1/2014 7:42:23 AM

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This same thing happened to me one time smoking changa. Profuse sweating and extreme nausea unlike any other time I've done DMT. It racked me, I stumbled into my room towards the bathroom but gave up and stopped at the bed, which was fine because I never threw up.

I'm about 99% sure that the reason this happened to me, though, was because I decided to blast off outside on my patio where it was like 97 degrees that day. I simply overheated -- but perhaps I was a bit dehydrated as well when I took the hit.


Hasn't happened again, nor have I tried smoking in the heat again.

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#11 Posted : 9/1/2014 8:48:53 AM

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Sweating happens to me too. And it is normal, due to increased heart rate and increased blood pressure.

But about the nausea...I don't know. Maybe you can try fasting before your next trip, I mean not eating for few hours before trip.
 
 
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