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waitwhatwhere
#1 Posted : 8/4/2014 6:51:55 AM

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"Once I was chatting with Jonathan Ott when I had dropped in on an Entheobotany conference at Palenque. At the time I had been underground for about 30 years, and a fugitive for about 20. No one knew who I was. We were discussing sacraments, and I used the word 'psychedelic.' Jonathan responded, 'We prefer to use the word entheogen.' I replied, 'When it is used sacramentally, then it is an entheogen. Until then, it is just a psychedelic, or perhaps only just a drug.'" ~Nick Sand

I put this quote first because it so beautifully encapsulates what I want to write about. Many people have written about the importance of intent and treating DMT with the respect that it deserves, but I was struck by how true this is after this evening with a friend who claimed he was "0 for 2" with psychedelics. My friend had only had extremely negative and difficult experiences with indole alkaloids, psilocybin and LSD, respectively. Yet when I asked him what actually happened, it was, in my opinion, exactly what not to do when taking entheogens: way too much, out in public, with people who were essentially acquaintances. I spoke with him about how in cultures that use these compounds traditionally, you don't get a pressed pill from some dude named Drifter at a festival--you experience these very same compounds in a ritual context, often accompanied by family members or pillars of the community i.e. wise men and women. With an experienced, compassionate guide, it's different. I feel like while many people get that set and setting are important for facilitating a positive visionary experience, most do not really know what these two concepts really mean.

I've been taking entheogens for almost 20 years now. No one taught me, I bought most of my first visions on the street from strangers. But I learned to treat them with respect, to come correct, so to speak, to enter the visionary state with the mindset of going on a literal vision quest. That's different from the party scene, which I came to after more than ten years of tripping my ego off with my closest friends in isolated locations. That's different than taking mescaline to get high. I'm not knocking the party scene as a whole: there are some seriously beautiful, conscious events out there that provide a (mostly) safe setting for people to explore their minds.

But when you want to go deep, or like my friend, you need to undo some damage, approaching DMT or other entheogens in a ritual context is basically the way to do it. Wait! You might be saying, I don't know any rituals! Jeez waitwhatwhere, you aren't helping! Well, again, no one taught me how to take entheogens the way I do now, I had to pick it up as I went along. Luckily, there are plenty of rituals to borrow from. I like to meditate. DMT told me to do it, so don't blame me. I also like yoga, tarot, and the Western occult tradition, as well as Tantra and...well, you get the picture. What I'm saying is, do what works for you. Use the symbols that resonate with your core. The Hindus have a useful concept called Ishta-devanta--the deity you prefer. Dig Norse mythology? Sweet, invoke Odin and get with it. It's all terribly Post Modern. Even if you are totally atheist, and take a secular neurobiology view to all the pretty colors of the DMT induced transcendental experience, cool, say a few words, state what you want out of the session and why you are doing it and take the plunge. Science is the shit, but do it with feeling. Do it like your actions have consequence. Do it like you are going to come out different on the other end, because like it or not, that is highly probable to happen.

Without turning this post into a full trip report, my friend said he's now 1 for 3 after tonight. He wept with gratitude. What I did was say: this space is safe, I'll take care of you, if you shit your pants, I give you new pants. We said some words, we burned incense and candles, played drone-y music and stated our intentions. After the visions, we closed the ceremony by sharing water, and then we went outside and talked about what we saw. This isn't hard, it doesn't take much effort, and in my humble opinion, demonstrates to myself and the compound in question that I come to the experience pure of heart, to listen, to learn, and to grow.

So, what are your DMT rituals? What about for other entheogens, are they different? Personally, I've taken these compounds hundreds of times in lots of contexts, so my own approach has evolved over the years, but at present I try and take a moment or two to formally address the gravity of the mental state I am about to enter.
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#2 Posted : 8/4/2014 5:19:20 PM

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Nice post waitwhatwhere. I agree. Pleased

In my case i only have experiences with Psilocybin and DMT so far. With Psilocybin i had several ineffable experiences over last 3 years that basically changed how i know my self and the world that i inhabit. Only 10 or so sub breakthroughs with DMT in last 2-3 months that are indicating that these chemicals are similar keys that open identical doors so i am getting my self ready to make a solitary deep voyage with it very soon.
Respect is a must as much as proper set and setting. I always go solo. I don't eat couple of hours before, take a shower and say my หPlease take care of me...ห out loud before taking off.
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#3 Posted : 8/4/2014 5:45:48 PM

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#4 Posted : 8/4/2014 6:54:33 PM

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Very nice post waitwhatwhere.Smile It seems that entheogens need to be directed somewhere in order to have the best affect. Not just shooting into the dark, blindfolded, after you were spun in a circle numerous times. But needs to have an intent behind them for sure. Otherwise you get smashed down and apart then your more confused than ever, but with this idea it either scares you away, or you keep digging deeper till it starts to make sense, or comfortable with whatever ideas blend together lol.

Thanks for sharing awesome read!Thumbs up ---dls---

 
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#5 Posted : 8/18/2014 10:56:37 AM

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I totally agree with you in underlining the difference of an experience on the party scene and one with close friends in a ritual context.

I must say that both can give very deep insights and both can be very different though. Like you say the ritual context is the way to go if you really want to go deep.

Depending on whether I am having the experience outside or inside I have different rituals. In both cases I try to bring a power object with me for safety. This eases my mind before the experience. I choose a day when I have no other occupations and even try to have a few days off after the experience.
"It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
 
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#6 Posted : 8/18/2014 11:10:24 AM

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good post WWW, i agree that a little structure goes along way, it can really change up the experiences that you have and the way in which you react to them afterwards.
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#7 Posted : 8/20/2014 4:35:04 PM

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Awesome thread. I totally agree. After using these types of substances for almost a decade recreationally and getting nothing out of them other then a few near death experiences and a few nights of terror, well I shouldn't say I got nothing out of them at all, it did change my outlook on things considerably. My point being when used recreationally one has no goal or aim so when you get really far out there with only an intent of just not being sober for the night. It can get really weird and lack any sense at all. Not that it can't get weird when used in a spiritual don't ft either.

I guess what I'm saying is I got all I could out of these substances when used without purpose and what I did get had no lasting effect upon me other then a open mind. However my passion to these drugs has been reawakened and now o only take them in a spiritual context. I've always loved McKenna for his thought on religion and how they offer r nothing in the way 5 dried grams of mushrooms.

I studied eastern religions , theosophy, gnosticism, sufisim, all this stuff and while it may make sense intellectually it lacks direct experience. Something these molecules provide on demand. I'm still waiting for the right time to take a heroic dose of mushrooms and hopefully experience true ego death and oneness with all matter and spirit.

Good post though man
That moment when you wonder if this time you went too far....

Obviously everything discussed here is the fictional accounts of someone with an out there imagination. I mean really could any of these tales be real?
 
 
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