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What would you have done differently your first time with DMT? Options
 
Cypheriax
#1 Posted : 7/30/2014 4:03:57 AM

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Other than extracting more correctly or dosing more reasonably I'm wondering if any of you might have changed something about your first time with the spirit molecule.

This is coming from a place of preparation and genuine curiosity, from what I've read set and setting play less of a role in vaped DMT than any huasca variety short of possibly music selection. It is how you approach the substance and what you bring to match what it is offering you.

Would you have done it with someone else or under different circumstances?

Would you have administered it differently?

Would you have focused on your mental preparation for the experience had you known what it'd be like?

Any other changes, subtle or otherwise would prove an amazing resource for me.

Thank you in advance for your thoughts. If you don't mind me soapboxing a little I'd like to tell you all how amazing this community is, in the short time I've been a member I've come to realize something. DMT is... powerful, for some the most powerful thing they will ever experience as long as they are alive and you as a community are not only open with these most intimate journeys into the very core of your mind and soul, but you dedicate a portion of your lives to spreading information and connecting with one another. It's an incredibly human and compassionate place and I am so very glad I'm a part of it.
 

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#2 Posted : 7/30/2014 4:21:24 AM
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I would of used enhanced leaf instead of the sandwich method, the latter has unpredictable results. Outside that I wouldn't change anything.
 
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#3 Posted : 7/30/2014 4:46:23 AM

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nothing...Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 7/30/2014 4:48:09 AM

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Nothing. My first experience was a perfect mixture of mindset, support, dose size, and trip.
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#5 Posted : 7/30/2014 4:51:02 AM

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I would have used a better smoking apparatus than a regular weed pipe with a screen.
 
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#6 Posted : 7/30/2014 4:54:38 AM

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darklordsson wrote:
nothing...Smile


anrchy wrote:
Nothing. My first experience was a perfect mixture of mindset, support, dose size, and trip.


For the two that say they wouldn't have changed anything, what do you think you did right in the leadup to make it such a great experience?
 
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#7 Posted : 7/30/2014 5:03:27 AM

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I didn't have a full on breakthough, I was more curious than anything to see what it was about, but bam! All the lsd, shrooms, or any other hallucinogen I had before didn't even compare, it was quick, and very rapid, maybe that's why it was so intense in the first place (I vaporized). I smoked it out of my pipe, with ashes at the bottomConfused . But the experience felt like I was being hugged for the most part. I saw the wooden grains melt in my floor and turn to rivers, and a chain of thoughts followed, some good some bad but they made me think about every one. I cant recall what they were but I can say they affect me to this day. Then after the experience, what if I dared to go farther? What would happen? I pressed further up the dose ladder (mostly guessing weight, I don't recommend). I was going blind to be honest, but im glad I did!Thumbs up ///sorry for the edits didn't feel like it was complete////

Best of Luck fellow Cosmonaught!Smile
 
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#8 Posted : 7/30/2014 5:50:37 AM

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Cypheriax wrote:
darklordsson wrote:
nothing...Smile


anrchy wrote:
Nothing. My first experience was a perfect mixture of mindset, support, dose size, and trip.


For the two that say they wouldn't have changed anything, what do you think you did right in the leadup to make it such a great experience?


People say you cant truly prepare for the experience, i kind of disagree in a sense. The information that i researched was a big part of it.

Dose sizes: i double checked, triple checked. I did not go with erowids advice.

Setting: everyone be quiet, dim lights, beanie to cover my eyes. All from my research.

We were all nervous. This i found comfort in. Everyone was respectful of my wishes on how i wanted to dose myself, they all knew how much effort i had put into learning what i could about it.

Previous use of psychedelics helped, as well as having dealt with negative experiences. My general mood though i believe was def key. I was happy, not too excited, not scared just nervous.

The experience was perfect. My dose size was around 15mg, and knowing that the effects would ve different than any other i was in a mindset to except whatever i was going to experience.
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#9 Posted : 7/30/2014 6:23:55 AM

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anrchy wrote:

People say you cant truly prepare for the experience, i kind of disagree in a sense. The information that i researched was a big part of it.

Dose sizes: i double checked, triple checked. I did not go with erowids advice.

Setting: everyone be quiet, dim lights, beanie to cover my eyes. All from my research.
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We were all nervous. This i found comfort in. Everyone was respectful of my wishes on how i wanted to dose myself, they all knew how much effort i had put into learning what i could about it.

Previous use of psychedelics helped, as well as having dealt with negative experiences. My general mood though i believe was def key. I was happy, not too excited, not scared just nervous.

The experience was perfect. My dose size was around 15mg, and knowing that the effects would ve different than any other i was in a mindset to except whatever i was going to experience.




Good people, loving attitude, and all the support u need for the exp. It can be helped. Awesome anrchy! wish I had friends into phys as much as me but oh well, gotta buddy comin bac from Illinois, maybe he will be a member for nexus, he loves the site from what he told meThumbs up
 
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#10 Posted : 7/30/2014 7:16:09 AM

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Ya i feel blessed that i have people that i can talk to about stuff like this especially since so many nexians dont seem to have that.

But there is a point where i had to almost halt conversation about it. I had to make a rule that i dont do dose requests for people anymore. It got kinda scary there for a bit. Too many people became aware that they knew somebody that knew somebody kinda thing.

I truly think if you have the perfect set and setting, mindset, and dose low your first time your most likely to be initiated in a positive way. Haven't had a single mishap with first timers this way.
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#11 Posted : 7/30/2014 7:37:10 AM



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I would have smoalked moar. In retrospect though it was still a very memorable, unique, and gentle intro.



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- Proper Smoking Device
- Preloading additional doses, so i would not have to fiddle with powder after coming out of it
- Smoking more than 5mg Pleased But it is still a good idea to start slow
- Dark Room, perhaps
 
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#13 Posted : 7/30/2014 1:19:57 PM

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um, probably not too much. Maybe waiting until it was dark would have increased the visuals? I pulled the curtains over slightly, but it was summer and it wasnt gonna get dark till mad late. Plus i'd rather have my experience and then bask in that warm afterglow & talk about it for hours, rather than sit waiting hours for it to go dark.. so who knows if i'd even change that.
 
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#14 Posted : 7/30/2014 1:59:11 PM

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A lot.
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#15 Posted : 7/30/2014 2:07:43 PM

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I would have changed the vaping device i used, i wish i had gone for infused herb in a bong and a cup of Aya sans the DMT.
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darklordsson
#16 Posted : 7/30/2014 3:57:14 PM

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anrchy wrote:
Ya i feel blessed that i have people that i can talk to about stuff like this especially since so many nexians dont seem to have that.

But there is a point where i had to almost halt conversation about it. I had to make a rule that i dont do dose requests for people anymore. It got kinda scary there for a bit. Too many people became aware that they knew somebody that knew somebody kinda thing.

I truly think if you have the perfect set and setting, mindset, and dose low your first time your most likely to be initiated in a positive way. Haven't had a single mishap with first timers this way.


Defiantly make it a low dose first time, "get your feet wet?" Sounds like the way to go. First exp. is first exp. I didn't breakthrough but im glad I didn't in the first place probably would of scared me away. But its what you got the first time that really opens up the doors to possibilities in these exp. and continue to use.

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#17 Posted : 7/30/2014 5:32:10 PM

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Not much. My first experiences were with Changa, which Imo is the way to go if smoking. It would have been good to have someone to hold my hand through it and help me integrate. But I quickly found this place and made myself at home Thumbs up other than that a few reckless doses humbled me and helped steer me on the right track, but I see those as important to my development.

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#18 Posted : 7/30/2014 6:40:02 PM

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darklordsson wrote:
nothing...Smile



This, I'm happy to say.

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#19 Posted : 7/30/2014 7:03:36 PM

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Absolutely nothing!

First time was love on first sight the same goes for the first breakthrough,something with dissolving in a yellow goddess of love etc etc Big grin
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#20 Posted : 7/30/2014 8:10:42 PM

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I woulda done enhanced leaf, and I also would have taken that second hit! lol LSDMT for DMT the first time FTW!
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