Wow, i had no idea there were this many threads and props to you to list them all.
With that, i can see how a subforum might be beneficial and even though i have no interest in cannabis myself, i can see how the interest of others could warrant a subforum, so i'm gonna change my vote to "Alright then, fair enough..."

So with jamie and obli switching votes, that puts the mod and seniors at 5 yes and 4 no. And 26 full members voting yes, with 7 voting no.

To me they are "classical psychedelics" which have been discussed here since I became a member so thats fine
with me.



Our view of what the forum is, differ.
I come here mostly for the information regarding phenethylamines and tryptamines.
Maybe it's the future of the nexus to discuss more substances but personally I like it the way it is.



Since "extend ones mind" can mean pretty much anything you like to It's perfectly fine to
claim that alcohol, opium and amphetamines extends ones mind.
Music, poetry, literature etc all reflect insights(extending ones mind?) that people have had from substances other than psychedelics.

I don't really care much for cannabis, personally I rate it about the same as alcohol.
Would you argue for an alcohol sub forum? brewing methods, ingestion etc?




The main reason is maybe because I'm losing my hair and becoming grumpy.
Then I don't think Cannabis is a very good drug.
I use it every now and then and it can be fun but that's it.


From the looks of it so far most people (including Traveler?) want the thread so good for you guys=)

I hear you. Still, there appear to be a ton of people who think otherwise, who are creating a lot of Cannabis related Threads. From glancing over dreamers thread, it appears that a lot of them are very...lets say nexianish ? Isolating THC, creating strains etc. I would hope that, should a Cannabis Forum be created, that the focus will remain on research & psychedelic use of cannabis. Because this is, afterall, a forum about psychedelics and not recreational drugs.

PS: Still strongly dislike Cannabis

I think we should be careful when using terms like "recreational" so we dont sound like drug snobs. I could make an entirley vaild arguement for traditional recreational use of psychedelic tryptamines throughout the amazon for instance. So what makes "recreational" necessarily a bad thing? If I go hiking in the forest on a dose of peyote, that is recreational also. Recreational use can also be spiritual use. If I dance all night around a bonfire or at a festival on mushrooms that is recreational. The two are not mutually exclusive. I have come to sort of not even like the negative use of these things being called "recreational".

Well they are legal and yes I would vote NO for such a thing.

I would prefer not to to be a member of a forum which advertises the use of Cannabis. Not that am against it, i would just not liked to be linked to it.


Although 'dreamer042' said -
"In fact everyone who is voting no is in effect voting for allowing an unchecked and widely distributed cannabis presence."

Thats a very good point.
But what do the rules say about discussing Cannabis.
If there is nothing against discussing the use of Cannabis then YES there should be a sub-folder to organise it.
If discussing Cannabis is against the rules then the answer is obvious.

I just don't like the idea of login on to DMT-NEXUS clicking Active Topics and reading an overwhelming amount of threads about Cannabis, Bong making, trip reports, munchies...........?

Considering the DMT-Nexus as an entheogenic university I think it would be appropriate to have a cannabis subforum as there's already one for all the other entheogens. The plant speaks for itself. Just keep it within the guidelines of the Attitude and with the general vibe of the Nexus like it seems to already be browsing thru the compilation thread. It's clear here what the effigy of our focus is and this flower sits at its base blooming. It's an exciting time for this plant too with its exponentially increasing awareness of its medicinal and therapeutic potential leading to reform. Slowly but surely washing away the propaganda and stigma of the past.


P.s. I voted for I am The Traveler because I got high.

Nothing makes it a bad thing. I'm very much for "recreational" substance use. I also don't think you can seperate mind expansion and recreation in many cases. I suppose many people aren't aware that recreational ayahuasca use was a thing among the shipibo and even their wifes are trying it sometimes...but often don't do it again because they find it scary

You're right what you said about not being snobs. Still, the focus can and should be on mind expansion because the nexus ain't bluelight....

I have many strange experiences with cannabis that I want to share, and always feel that these posts would look out of place anywhere but in their own cannabis sub forum.

I think there are also many important threads and posts here with a wealth of information on cannabis which would be much easier to access for everyone if they were moved to their own place.

EDIT: OOPS I think I was supposed to click the 'I am a mod or senior who votes yes' button.

Even though my relationship with mary jane is coming to an end for now I vote
yes. I have found it very enjoyable and therapeutic in the past and a wild psychedelic in its own right (too wild recently).

I voted yes, but I meant to click the first option, not the second.

I'd be happy to see a subforum for Cannabis to begin. Many other subforums(substances) go well alongside cannabis. Why not include it as its own entity? Considering all of its uses available to all of us. Much respect to all other comments.

I am interested in oral use and in high doses. There is little information regarding this topic. It seems,that this use is unorthodox, so I would like to see more reports of this use.

Personally, I don't think we should include Cannabis in the same context as we do for entheogens. There's numerous sites dedicated to Cannabis that can already provide more information than one could need... There's currently so much science and movement happening in the cannabis culture, that a sub-forum could end up becoming too dominant compared to discussions related to entheogens. Just my input..

Having said that, I'm certainly for discussions around Cannabis and other non-entheogens, I just think a dedicated sub-forum moves away from this sites niche

Considering how there is already several hundred threads and more being made all the time about cannabis (and many more to be made once it increasingly becomes legalized), and that it is definitely a powerful entheogen despite it's other uses/misuses and connotations/preconceived notions/baggage, I still think the best option is just to create a subforum for it like all the other entheogens instead of having hundreds of these threads randomly spread out all over the forum. If it becomes too active of a subforum and begins to overshadow other entheogens, we can just restrict topics in there from showing up on the active topics list at the bottom of the forum (and remove it from view entirely for non-members if people really feel that's necessary...) - problem solved.

I dont mean to be rude but i cant take drug snobs seriously ...... and i dont think drug snob statements throw a good light on people and web sites like this who want to be taken seriously . . My drug is good and yours is bad . Drugs ae not good or bad or dangerous . Its what some people do with them that can be dangerous .

You have salvia , nootropics and research chemical sections so why not cannabis ?

I dont understand how / why people can complain about and look down on " stoners " on a web site full of fairy tales about aliens and machine elves ?

I'd happily see the creation of a cannabis sub-forum. Voted yes !

In the name of Jah: just imagine a entheogenic university without a Cannabis faculty! If the faculty does proper science, then it certainly would supplement the whole campus for the better.

Wich entheogen has the longest and bigest unbroken tradition in the world ? Bigger than all the others put together ?

Next ....... define entheogen / an entheogen expeience / wich drugs are entheogen ? Yes i know what the word means and where it came from . BUT nowadays people all over the net are calling drugs entheogens and not all drugs are entheogens .

As a measuring rod we could take a full blown near death experiences wich is the biggest entheogen expeience a person can have . The white light experience . What drugs can cause / facilitate effects similar to that ?