Can some of you people use your brains please. Im kind of shocked at some of the conclusions i am reading. This is possibly a life threatening venture and IMO goes right along the lines of medical advice.

Vovins report should be read by all of you.

Nowhere did I imply that it is a walk in the park, nor did I sugarcoat anything. I simply said that I can't see how doing DMT in a sens. dep. tank is any more dangerous than being out in the world. (not 'in my bed' The tragic story you're referencing about smoking DMT next to a river provides a case-in-point. I assume, that we all here are already aware of the dangers of being in an altered state. Falling into a river is a world apart.


The only claim I made is that I find it very unlikely that a person will drown in 12 inches of epsom water while tripping in a dep tank.

I'm willing to accept that I'm completely wrong on this, I just don't think that I am.

After searching the web, I found that in 2008, the first recorded flotation tank death was a UK man who drowned in the tank; he dosed himself with ketamine.

Ketamine is a dissociative, a sedative, and a tranquilizer.

That's a pretty extreme situation. It says in the article he had done it before.

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But as my response may not be well received, here's a disclaimer: Never do DMT in a sensory deprivation tank.

sounds potentially dangerous, if not just damn near impossible to cleanly pull off....

consider investing in a pair of heavy duty noise reduction over ear headphones (like the ones drummers and some people who work on runways use, vic firth and other drumming companies make pretty good ones for 20-40 bucks). In an already mainly silent environment, this will be extremely close to silence. put in some in ear earplugs (the kind youd use at the indy 500) in addition to these over ear ones, in an already quiet environment, and youre golden.

also consider investing in a mindfold. it is essentially a sleep mask made of ultra lightweight foam with cutouts where your eyes are, allowing you to open them during the experience without any discomfort. or, make your own similar contraption.

combine both of these while in a super comfortable position, meditate for 15 minutes or so beforehand, consume the dose and after you set down your smoking accessory after the last hit, slip that mindfold back on.

maybe not quite the same as a sensory deprivation tank, but I can tell you this.... IT WORKS! and you dont have to shell out money for repeat experiences.... consider it an investment!!

this setup is also HIGHLY recommended for high dose mushroom and lsd journeys. for these however, it works best if you lay flat on your back and get comfortable, release all muscle tension, and give it a solid, uninterrupted 40 minutes or so for it to get REAL crazy...

maybe oral DMT i would consider.

if you smoalk enough you are deprived of physical sensory experiences anyways, so i don't really see the point to it.

I hear ya...and this method sounds somewhat effective, but doesn't even come close to a session in a float tank. Any blindfolds or earplugs/muffs or contact with solid surfaces are going to still allow for moderate physical sensory feedback, along with gravity pressure from whatever surface you're laying on. Unless you are somewhat skilled at meditation so that you can disassociate from from these sensations, they could still be a potential source of distraction.



As long as nausea isn't a problem. (And maybe it wouldn't be considering how still your body can become in the tank.)



True. That's why I would recommend a low-dose, longer-acting entheogen like LSD, psilocybin, mescaline, etc. You can then still have (relatively) "sold footing" in two worlds at once.

Spartan, oh yeah man did not mean to imply that it would be anything like a substitute by ANY means.... just that if he was curious about heading that general direction, this might give him a little itty bitty taste!

This method is mainly effective in the visual aspect. Another option is to meditate with the aforementioned headphones, in a PITCH BLACK closet, pipe/bong already packed and ready to go, for around half an hour (the approximate amount of time I have found in my experiences to begin to significantly remove my mental associations of current location). At which point, all that you will have to base your location off of as your brain goes into overdrive and tries to hold on to anything, is the image of a dark, amber light from the lighter in a small, hyperspatial cave (read: closet). For bonus points, decorate everything in your field of vision with tapestries or the like. This alone is enough to really supplement anyone in their goal to "travel completely elsewhere. The visuals seem to continue longer because the pitch blackness leaves nothing for your brain to come back to. Man, opening that closet door and coming back to consensual reality on planet earth can be QUITE a doozy sometimes

I'd imagine you would have to be VERY gone to drown in a sensory deprivation tank. Like completely and utterly detached. So detached that you forget you're on drugs in the first place. The only times that has ever happened to me were some blackout drunk experiences as a teen and a 7g mushroom tea. I think it would be safe, but you just never know if something crazy is gonna happen.

A friend of mine wanted a large dose. So i prepared for him 35mg. This is what ge asked for. 5 min into the trip he was still attempting to hold his breath even tho he had already exhaled. I was concerned and had to let him know, gently, that he can exhale now.

Anyone that sits on there computer and decides to type little letters and click some buttons to tell anyone that they KNOW how someone's trip is gonna go down and that this will or will not happen is being highly irresponsible.

One may feel like the water entering your lungs is an entity trying to heal you. Apparently some people haven't had those really abstract experiences where normal life stuff isnt translated properly into the trip.

I think any DMT breakthrough could easily be considered crazy!

Like I said its a bad idea, you never know what's gonna happen during the dmt trip, so why risk it? Personally, I would never attempt this, its just reckless.

Fair enough, but some people are more willing to take risks than others. Some experiences can only be obtained through risky behavior. I wouldn't be the person I am today if I didn't make some stupid/reckless decisions.

Anyway, it's up to the OP to decide whether or not to go through with it. We've provided all the possible dangers involved, and it ultimately isn't our choice.

All I can say to the OP is be smart and be careful. Don't do this unless you are comfortable and you know you can handle it. Make sure the owner of the sensory deprivation tank is okay with you doing this. And don't be the guy that ruins it for everyone by vomiting in the tank. Nobody likes a puker.

Anything can be dangerous if done recklessly and irresponsibly. The guy said it was an aquaintance. Pretty deep states can be achieved withhout dmt in that thing. I think if someone tri sat that was trustworthy and if you have previous experience in a tank, a small dose oral should be fine. If the guy is his friend he could easily vape the dmt sitting or even laying back and hand it to his buddy and go to chillin. This is just on opinion. The tanks I have been to have an optional head pillow thing for if your head goes below the water to far. I dont know I guess this a problem for some people. I dont like it, you can sense gravity. But im a very tall guy and my eyes and mouth never come in contact with the water. However the pillow thing would probably be a good idea and his buddy could shut the door, or heck. If he really wants to be safe, if the tank is big enough he can even sit in there, which is probably unnecessary. Ive been in a 8 x 10..I think if proper supervision is there while the user is EXPERIENCED in both spice and float tank, one should be ok.

..reminds us of (a movie of) a naked man waking up with bloody lips in a zoo cage