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#1 Posted : 7/22/2014 3:45:28 AM
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An acquaintance of mine recently opened up a high-scale sensory dep center in my city. Previously the closest place was 50 miles away, but now that there is one less than 5 miles away I can see myself getting into some trouble....

Has anyone ventured down the path of combining DMT while floating in a sensory dep tank? I'd be interested in performing a series of controlled tests to monitor the experiences, but I wanted to see what you fellow Psychonauts have already experienced.

I'd love to see some discussion on experiences that have been had
a) while on DMT in a sensory dep tank
compared to
b) experiences had while not on any psychedelics in a sensory dep tank.

I dug around the goog's for a bit but the only results had Joe Rogan's documentary written all over them...
 

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#2 Posted : 7/22/2014 3:51:39 AM

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I personally would not try it, since even being in the dark can lead me to have negative experiences. When there is no point of reference to the outside world, you can really get lost in hyperspace. However, I can see it definitely increasing the immersion and length of the experience.
 
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#3 Posted : 7/22/2014 3:55:26 AM

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I like the idea.. but how would you smoke DMT and then enter the float tank? I suppose smoking it in the float tank would be really cool and esoteric, or even homey to the experienced. What about dropping the pipe in the water? Goodbye DMT crystal. Would really enjoy to learn more about this.
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#4 Posted : 7/22/2014 3:58:04 AM
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arcologist wrote:
I personally would not try it, since even being in the dark can lead me to have negative experiences. When there is no point of reference to the outside world, you can really get lost in hyperspace. However, I can see it definitely increasing the immersion and length of the experience.


Thats a valid argument for most. As I've started my journey with DMT, I have noticed my fear of darkness diminish to a near non-existent state. One theory that I have sort of "discovered" is that elements in the 'free' world cannot directly effect those of the "flesh" world if you realize just that.

I feel like instances of demonic possession only occur when the host(flesh) allows the spirit (free) to posses his body. It is with this theory that I am completely ditching my fear of darkness, as I know that I cannot be effected if I do not allow myself to be.

Cognitive Heart wrote:
I like the idea..but how would you smoke DMT and then enter the float tank? Wut? I suppose smoking it in the float tank would be really cool and esoteric, or even homey to the experienced. What about dropping the pipe in the water? Goodbye DMT crystal. Would really enjoy to learn more about this.
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Using the machine, you could enter the tank with a pre-loaded device and smoke once you've already entered a state of calm. You will most likely drop the pipe after you smoke, but assuming you get a good first hit I dont see this as a problem.
 
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#5 Posted : 7/22/2014 4:55:53 AM

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Doesn't sound fun. Besides not being a convenient environment to vape in, you could end up swallowing the water or getting it into your eyes. Epsom salt can cause a burning sensation.

It can also take some time to settle in and "get there".

I've have had great results on low-dose LSD in the tank.Thumbs up

 
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#6 Posted : 7/22/2014 5:00:15 AM

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This is awesome.

I have always wanted to do a dep tank and I have a feeling that this thread combined with my specific coordinates in space-time will initiate my first time.

To answer your question I'd say:

You said this was your friend, so surely, he would let you chill in the dep tank presumably for as long as you wanted.

Maybe oral DMT is the way to go to overcome the smoking element?

Do you think you can handle a few HOURS in the dep tank with DMT?Shocked lol that is an expansive question for anyone...
 
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#7 Posted : 7/22/2014 6:33:31 AM

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Although i cannot say that i have done oral dmt in a sensory deprivation tank, I can say that i have taken a mimosa rue brew and went swimming in an abandoned lagoon on it. Long story short, i can say that floating in water on DMT is a BAD IDEA WHEN ATTEMPTED UNSUPERVISED.

It goes a little something like this...

Once upon a time i drank a 2g rue , 5g mhrb brew and decided to go swimming at the abandoned lagoon hidden in the mangroves a good 4 mile bike ride from my house. Upon arriving there, I felt the beast rise within me. The spirit molecule hit me like Tsar Bomba and i was instantly on with the natural world around me. I plunged into the water shortly after the first wave struck. Within the salty and crystal clear waters of the lagoon I found a state of bliss and inner peace within myself which i have yet to attain to this very day. Life, the universe, and everything was perfect under the sea, in total darkness, floating like a dream in the stream of the metaphyiscal universe. A common side effect of DMT, in my case, is that it seems to extinguish the urge to breath. I find that i can hold my breath up to a period of five minutes, whereas I could bearly hold it for two minutes sober. As I was floating through the weightless huasca space I felt reality beginning to slip and i looked at my hands and noticed an unsightly shade of purple. EUREKA! I discovered that i was beginning to drown from a lack of oxygen that my brain had forgotten to tell me about. I immediately rose to the surface and, surprisingly, did little to no gasping and in fact breathed calmly and normally as i surfaced. Over the course of the next 2 hours i floated on the mirror like surface of the hidden lagoon, gazing upon the full on might of the universe in the face of the clear blue sky and the crystal clear depths below.


DISASTER IMMENENT!!! I had apparently forgotten to stash the rest of my huasca and remembered that my roomates (who were not very cool with having psychedelics in the house) would be home soon. I didn't know how soon; all i knew was that i didnt want them coming home to a bottle of special spirit medecine. Upon realizing this i witnessed my life flash before my eyes. The ability to maintain oral contact with the air slipped from my grasp as panic set in and i began to sink like a rock; I forgot how to swim. By some grace of god, vishnu, buddah, or whatever other imaginary idol you believe in I managed to survive, make it to the surface, and manage to bike ride 4 miles home to save the huasca from being discovered by the unworthy ones. HUZZAH! The day was saved and I didnt DIE!

In retrospect, Oral DMT can be extremely powerful and astoundingly potentiated to levels beyond the grasp of this single universe when done in a state of sensory deprivation. I would be fine with doing DMT in a deprivation tank (or any other deprivation environment such as a pool, lake, or outer space) so as long as i was constantly supervised by a responsible and trustworthy person in order to ensure that I didn't accidentally kill myself on the path to true enlightenment.

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#8 Posted : 7/22/2014 7:13:27 AM

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People have drowned after dosing DMT. I can see the strong possibility of this combination doing just that.
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#9 Posted : 7/22/2014 7:33:43 AM

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anrchy wrote:
People have drowned after dosing DMT. I can see the strong possibility of this combination doing just that.


My thoughts exactly, sounds bad, maybe if there was a way to suspend your neck or head so it doesn't meet the water? Anyhoo bad idea.
 
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#10 Posted : 7/22/2014 8:58:00 AM

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I'm assuming the OP was referring to pharmahuasca. Smoking in a sensory deprivation tank... that's silly guys!

I actually think it's a cool idea. I've heard sensory deprivation tanks are a great way to unlock the full potential of psychedelics. Of course you'll have to take some safety precautions.

I would make sure the owner/manager/supervisor/whatever knows and is okay with you doing this. I'm usually against the idea of a sitter, but in this case I think it's very important. We can't have you drowning here.

Actually, I think since you're floating it's hard to drown in a sensory deprivation tank. I could be wrong, I'm not an expert. But I have heard of other people doing it before. Just be careful, and make sure you're comfortable doing this. Don't do this unless you have plenty of pharmahuasca experience - I wouldn't consider myself ready quite yet. I wouldn't tackle something like this until I'm fully comfortable with how I can handle myself on pharmahuasca, which hasn't happened for me yet.

Keep your dose low. Don't go experimenting with some heroic dose here. Consider a dose you KNOW you can handle... and then do less than that. Be careful.

But like I said, if you can get permission, I think it's a good idea. Good luck!

Update: Actually one major problem I see with this idea is the possibility of purging/vomiting. I strongly doubt the owner would wank puke in their sensory deprivation tank. That might be an issue.
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Having been in a tank I would highly recommend first going in sober, as the excitement of the first time can already make it pretty difficult to relax into the deeper stages... and adding some psychedelic, especially dmt, to the equation could just amp up this even more and negate most of the benefits of the tank headspace since you won't be able to relax into it very much

It seems that it works best to have the psychedelic start hitting you once you are already well relaxed into the tank experience. I think mushrooms would be much better for this than trying to smoke DMT in there. They're basically like oral DMT to me anyways. I did take some harmalas and melatonin once and it was very interesting, though it is hard to figure out what I would have experienced either way that time and it was no one near enough for me to purge.

In any case please be VERY careful. These things are not toys and they definitely make tripping more risky. Even so much as getting some of the salt water in your eye while tripping in a tank can be pretty horrible.

p.s. this is definitely not the first time this has been discussed, so try a search for more info Wink



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#12 Posted : 7/22/2014 2:03:56 PM

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If anything at all I would say small dose. A tank experience
can be an amazing and deep trip by itself without anything extra added.
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I recently did part of a pharma session in a hot tub with no bubble jets turned on. It's not a depo tank, but it's as close as I have access to. It was pretty awesome.
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#14 Posted : 7/22/2014 4:09:42 PM

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Godsmacker wrote:
Long story short, i can say that floating in water on DMT is a BAD IDEA WHEN ATTEMPTED UNSUPERVISED.




Sensory deprivation tanks are usually no more than 10-12 inches deep, and the water saturated with magnesium sulfate (epsom salt), which will make anyone or thing float like a cork on top of the water.

I really can't see how it would be any more dangerous than taking DMT and being out in the world.
 
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You can still drown in 2'' of water while zoning out, use a low dose not to induce a deep trance, but to aid the deprivation tank would still be risky though.
 
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darklordsson wrote:

You can still drown in 2'' of water while zoning out


Yea, I guess we just disagree here.

Young children can drown in 2" of water, so can unconscious people. But I can't imagine zoning out so far that I don't realize that I'm filling my lungs with water and dying. That's not even considering the body's natural physical reactions to water entering its airways.


Just my thoughts though, I've never tripped in a sensory deprivation tank. But, apparently there's a place near me called Adrift Float Spa, so I'm going to give it a shot!

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Adjhart wrote:
darklordsson wrote:

You can still drown in 2'' of water while zoning out


Yea, I guess we just disagree here.

Young children can drown in 2" of water, so can unconscious people. I can't imagine zoning out so far that I don't realize that I'm filling my lungs with water and dying.

Just my thoughts though, I've never tripped in a sensory deprivation tank. But, apparently there's a place near me called Adrift Float Spa, so I'm going to give it a shot!

Without the DMT first, of course Razz



Sounds good my friend!! Its crazy on its own anyways. lolThumbs up Thumbs up
 
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#18 Posted : 7/22/2014 4:37:33 PM

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Yea I meditate daily, so I'm actually very looking forward to having an amazing experience completely sober.

I'm super interested.

It's like 89$ for one session (90 mins)

Or they have a special like 3 sessions for 177$.

Gonna give it a goThumbs up
 
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Adjhart wrote:
Godsmacker wrote:
Long story short, i can say that floating in water on DMT is a BAD IDEA WHEN ATTEMPTED UNSUPERVISED.




Sensory deprivation tanks are usually no more than 10-12 inches deep, and the water saturated with magnesium sulfate (epsom salt), which will make anyone or thing float like a cork on top of the water.

I really can't see how it would be any more dangerous than taking DMT and being out in the world.


please tell me you're not being serious.

for starters, getting epsom salt water in your eyes, a very likely outcome, is very painful... it's also noticeably more difficult to breathe in such a dense solution. combine these aspects with the intensity of dmt, it's a recipe for a potentially bad experience. I'd go sober the first time (i have), so you understand what you're considering.
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Adjhart wrote:
Godsmacker wrote:
Long story short, i can say that floating in water on DMT is a BAD IDEA WHEN ATTEMPTED UNSUPERVISED.




Sensory deprivation tanks are usually no more than 10-12 inches deep, and the water saturated with magnesium sulfate (epsom salt), which will make anyone or thing float like a cork on top of the water.

I really can't see how it would be any more dangerous than taking DMT and being out in the world.


This is just completely false. As I said, getting the salt water in your eye alone will burn like all hell and be very uncomfortable while tripping. If you think doing DMT in a sensory dep tank is a walk in the park and no more dangerous/different than doing it in your bed then I suggest reading Vovin's mass of the pheonix report. You can go very far out of this reality on a tank alone, and adding DMT to that equation is going to ramp things up beyond what most people can comprehend.

BTW, in regards to your other post, believe it or not there is a member here whose close friend died while smoking DMT next to a river...

I'm not saying you are going to die, be injured, or have a horrible experience. Just that there are definitely legit reasons to proceed with caution and there is no need to sugarcoat it and play it off to everyone like there is no dangers.



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