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MonkeyMan123
#1 Posted : 7/21/2014 2:12:53 AM
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Let's say you extract from ACRB and you get both white crystals and orange goo. Would the white crystals be pure DMT as oposed to the goo which would be DMT and NMT?
 

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#2 Posted : 7/21/2014 6:52:00 AM

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They probably both contain NMT. The goo is DMT, NMT, and probably something extra like water or plant fats, though it shouldn't hurt you assuming the extraction was done properly. The white crystals are most likely reasonably pure DMT and NMT.
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#3 Posted : 7/21/2014 9:15:31 PM
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So it'd be reasonable to assume the white crystals are a little more potent per mg?
 
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#4 Posted : 7/21/2014 11:04:33 PM

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I read somewhere that the plant you are referring to is close to 50/50 nndmt and the oxide. I can not recomend mullien strong enough for the leaf that one in the situation of having "Goo" could use to enhance. This article seems spot on with the experience of Some one who isn't me.

http://reportingthetrip....-dmt-to-dmt-n-oxide.html
 
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#5 Posted : 7/22/2014 9:16:02 PM

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HippingTrippY I think possibly you are thinking of NMT, which is different from oxidized DMT.
 
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#6 Posted : 7/23/2014 2:39:30 AM

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The white crystals are probably a little more pure, and thus slightly more potent, but not by much. It doesn't cause much extra material to cause DMT/NMT to not be totally white. The amount of "extra" stuff is most likely very small.

Either way, I strongly prefer MHRB over ACRB. The NMT ruins it for me. However, I only tried the alkaloids from one ACRB batch. Perhaps another batch would have been more suiting. And there are others out there who say they actually prefer the NMT. You just gotta find what works for you.

But yeah both the goo and the crystals should be fine assuming the extraction was done properly.
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#7 Posted : 7/23/2014 9:38:05 AM

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Yeagh you are right it's just that the description seems to fit a whole LOT more than what is reported in Tikhal and elsewhere about the oxide.
 
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#8 Posted : 7/23/2014 10:38:24 AM

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MonkeyMan123 wrote:
Let's say you extract from ACRB and you get both white crystals and orange goo. Would the white crystals be pure DMT as oposed to the goo which would be DMT and NMT?


There both pretty similar in dosage strength and the goo weighs quite a lot more then the fluffy crystal that comes from quality ACRB !
Although I prefere to remove all the plant fats and oils that cause the goo , but even though I get bright white crystals in my extractions I'm sure there is still nmt in the mix just not sure of the percentage !!

If you want to you could recrystalise if you like or just do a defat wash before freeze precipe and IMO it's well worth it as I hate stuffing around with the goo !!
 
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#9 Posted : 7/23/2014 1:01:36 PM
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Is there a method of separating the dmt from the nmt?
 
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#10 Posted : 7/23/2014 1:43:27 PM

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MonkeyMan123 wrote:
Is there a method of separating the dmt from the nmt?

Please do some research on the forum. We discourage spoonfeeding here. Thanks.
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#11 Posted : 7/23/2014 1:46:22 PM
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SnozzleBerry wrote:
MonkeyMan123 wrote:
Is there a method of separating the dmt from the nmt?

Please do some research on the forum. We discourage spoonfeeding here. Thanks.

Sorry about that. I did actually do some research before I asked here, and I couldn't find any recent information on it. Maybe I'm just not good at finding specific old posts, but I was hoping somebody had new information on the process if there is one.
 
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#12 Posted : 7/23/2014 2:15:12 PM

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MonkeyMan123 wrote:
SnozzleBerry wrote:
MonkeyMan123 wrote:
Is there a method of separating the dmt from the nmt?

Please do some research on the forum. We discourage spoonfeeding here. Thanks.

Sorry about that. I did actually do some research before I asked here, and I couldn't find any recent information on it. Maybe I'm just not good at finding specific old posts, but I was hoping somebody had new information on the process if there is one.

What are you searching? I have a hard time believing this as there is at least one major thread with precisely what you're looking for in the title.
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MonkeyMan123
#13 Posted : 7/23/2014 2:33:04 PM
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I found this: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=20978 and this: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=48737 . I guess I was just hoping for a more noob friendly method to be honest. I'm not exactly a chemist.
 
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#14 Posted : 7/23/2014 3:05:04 PM

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I haven't tried it, but that dry ice method doesn't look too bad...
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#15 Posted : 7/26/2014 3:55:45 AM

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MonkeyMan123 wrote:
I found this: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=20978 and this: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=48737 . I guess I was just hoping for a more noob friendly method to be honest. I'm not exactly a chemist.

Proberly 99% of us arn't chemists either , but what SnozzleBerry is saying is use the search , wiki or FAQ every topics answer is available here you should just search and research you're topic at the time and if I can't quite understand something ATT I'll read and reread until I do ! Youlle get there good luck !Thumbs up
 
 
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