Hi all,

Being pleasantly surprised with the maturity of this community, I figured I'd join the forums. I'm a 26-year old from Belgium, currently undergoing some tests in order to confirm a diagniosis of ADD which was made 6-years ago by a psychiatrist I consider a "doctor in the warfield". Anyway, I'm currently not in a situation I consider safe to experiment with psychedelics, but I want to use the time to tap into the knowledge contained in these forums. Self-control is never easy when it comes to drugs, but at the moment I think I'd better stay at distance.

In this regard, and this one of the reasons why I wanted to make an introductory post here, is the fact that I've suffered "metal fume fever" a few months ago. Just wanted to point out that this may be more explicit on the safety & health guidelines: metal fume fever is a condition induced by inhaling toxic metal fume fevers, and presents itself with low blood pressure (had it for over a week!) and other flu-like symptoms. It usually starts around ~3 hours after inhaling the fumes, and needless to say, many new (and more experienced) users should seriously keep this in mind when attempting to inhale DMT via the use of any steel whool, or similar stuff that might potentially release the toxic stuff. Not a life-threatening disease, but if you care about your real-life (you should), it's definitely something to be cautious about. I know alot of people use the machine etc, and I haven't seen many posts about this, so maybe this could be added to the guidelines (just a suggestion, nothing more!).

Other stuff worth mentioning is that I've experimented with a variety of drugs, and have gradually become more interested in DMT. I'm not a very experienced psychonaut or anything, but ever since ketamine had such a (positive) profound effect on the way I perceive myself and others, I've decided to focus on the pyschedelics I feel can give a new perspective on this life. Ketamine helped me bigtime with my social phobia, and I somehow feel my brain was "reset" to understand that we're not so individual as I used to think - cheesy as it sounds, we're social beings connected to each other, which is a very soothing thought really. I've experimented with other stuff such as XTC, MDMA, Mephedrone etc., which also helped me to overcome the phobia, but they quickly lost appeal (and therapeutic effect) to me. Only other stuff I might consider besides DMT is 2-CB, psilocybin and LSD (bit in doubt of that one, given the "rest molecule"-risk), but again, now's not the time. Just in order to avoid doubt: I'm not looking at DMT as a therapeutic substance, though more as a substance able to open up perspective. I've spent ages thinking about the universe, string theory and whatnot, and think that DMT could open some perspective (or more likely bring forth more questions, but I gladly accept that I'll never be able to understand everything).

Anyway, to get to my first question regarding DMT: I've had difficulties using the "machine", more specifically I'm unsure how to exactly use it (how long to heat it, jet or bic-lighter, when do I know's ready etc.). I'm slow when it comes to practical stuff, so any aid regarding this could help a lot. I'm also looking at making "the key", but i've become very cautious with cleaning the stuff, as health comes first (cfr. above). Previous experiences with DMT: first treshold (nice lighting!), and internal dialogues with a female entity which told me I had to stop carrying so many thoughts with me, which really helped me. Furthest I got was a rhytmic vibration througout my body - very interested in exploring further!

That's basically it, hope it's a bit structured (no add-meds atm). Hope to get some feedback on my post and again, very glad to see there are mature internet forums in relation to drugs. If anyone could help this unhandy guy with using DMT, I'd be grateful. I have 0,5 gr DMT lying around for me when the time is right, and I'd prefer to use it safely.


Kr

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The best method to date is the GVG. But its a bit pricey $100-120 depending on where you live.

The machine is another good one. I made mine out of a vinegar bottle that has a metal top with a small hole in it. What this does is separates the flame from the spice. This method of machine makes it one of the best machines because it is impossible to ever burn the spice. Plus you won't have that metal fume thing because the flame never touches the metal.
Here is a picture of it. You want to drill with a glass / mason drill bit for about 5 minutes. Drill in the middle at the bottom. When drilling, wear gloves and in a semi ventilated area (garage is fine). Wear a mask and goggles too. When drilling you want to drill until the drill bit peaks through to the other side of the glass, you don't want to drill right through or it might crack. (like mine did but was ok to use)You want to wash the bottle to get rid of dust. Pre-burn a metal mesh and form a ball and pack it in the neck right snug at the top. Load spice on mesh, get jet lighter and from far away you want to melt (not burn) the spice. Wait a few seconds to cool and screw on the top. Jet lighter is needed and should be held 1inch from the metal top (give or take a bit).

Another person mentioned heating up the glass red hot and then popping a hole, but I have not tried that.

No one else has tried this method of machine. I have posted a few times. I sware this could be better than.... The gvg! (love the gvg though!)

Thanks a lot! I read about the GVG and it does seem superior due to the ceramic heating. Another thing i've considered making is "the key", which basically requires some copper screws. but maybe I should stop making things overly complicated and just buy the damn thing (hear it's sturdy too).

Thanks for your input on the lighter, think I'll consider purchasing an arc or similar; with a bic lighter it's not easy to apply heat in the right places. I'll let you know how it goes (in a few months) :-)

Welcome to the Nexus!

Sorry to hear about your metal fume issues. What was the exact source of your problem/metal fume inhalation?

You can also try the Inspirator MKII from amor fati, seems like a good method I think.

Do you also consider taking DMT orally?

I used steel whool which I first heated until no fumes come off, but when inhaling I held the flame too close which caused the whool to burn (very distinct metal taste and smell while inhaling). In retrospect I guess I should have torched the whool; negligent on my part not to double check this, but I think others might have had this problem aswell (found one post making link between pre-heating and MFF, not sure if it was this forum). After seeing a doctor for the symptoms (mainly low blood pressure and flu-like symptoms), I googled a bit (I know, everyone's a doctor nowadays) and figured it was MFF. In my opinion things like this should also be taken into account when making other sorts of vaporizers aswell, for example with a ceramic element, as you can never be sure what products were used.

Thanks for your tip, I've considered making that one aswell but have ordered a GVG.

I haven't read much on oral ingestion of dmt yet, but it's definitely something I would like to try. Think I'll first focus on learning how to extract though, and getting the vaporizing right. So much to learn :-)

Electric Kool-Aid,

That seems like a pretty nice machine idea. Do you find you taste the butane fumes when sucking in the air? Do you aim the jet lighting directly at the hole or diagonal to it?

And one more Q, you pre-melt the spice on the open end of the bottle, so you never have to remove the mesh ball? Seems pretty smart.

Thanks!