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maranello551
#1 Posted : 7/17/2014 7:26:25 PM
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So this is a question directed mostly at 69ron since I've been following a few of his older threads concerning use of Datura Stramonium seeds to potentiate psychedelics.

Anyone else with experience please feel free to answer of course.

So basically 69ron, you state that when taking 1-3 seeds of D. Stramonium,with mescaline or ayahuasca, that the experience is potentiated and becomes "more like lsd". I'm not sure what doses of LSD you speak of but so far as swim's concerned, ayahuasca and mescaline visuals (300-400mg) tend to blow LSD (100-250ug) out of the water...so what do you mean exactly by making them more like LSD yet making it stronger?
Mescaline visuals seem like flowing LSD-like visuals with more profound meaning to swim, while actual lsd visuals seem almost dead and mechanical....is this not your experience? Ayahuasca, on the other hand is very similar to a short lasting, high mushroom dose for swim. Mushrooms visuals in the 5-10g range for swim have overshadowed any lsd experience up to swim's highest experience of around (300-350ug). Even the headspace from 2.5-3.5g of mushrooms seems far more profound and insightful than those lsd doses.

For you, how do mescaline, mushroom, and ayahuasca visuals differ from those of lsd?

Swim would be interested in the use of datura stramonium seeds in conjunction with cimora, ayahuasca, and mushrooms (and psilohuasca), because of these reduced nausea/increased visual effects you have spoken on, but is afraid if he does use these seeds, that the visuals will become of the less profound/fun-house mirror style visual that swim has found lsd to reveal.

Any new insight since you wrote on this?

Anything helps,

Blessings,

M.
 

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Ufostrahlen
#2 Posted : 7/17/2014 7:38:17 PM

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What happened to 69ron?
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maranello551
#3 Posted : 7/17/2014 7:51:40 PM
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Dang. I guess :[.

Anyone else?
 
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#4 Posted : 7/17/2014 7:57:19 PM

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I haven't tried other combinations than eating 3 DS seeds with 0,5l of coke. The effects were marginal. Certainly not visual.
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soulfood
#5 Posted : 7/17/2014 11:37:10 PM

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First of all I think 69ron had a very sensitive composition if his posts are anything to go by.

My own experiences tell me that dat. S seeds offer very little to the experience at that dosage other than a mild reduction of nausea. 10 seeds seem to have very little difference than 3 in combination with other substances, but when using 10 dat. s. seeds alone before sleep I had the weirdest most stupid dream I've ever had in my life so there was definitely something in it.

I can't testify to the standardization of alkaloid content in this plant so its possible your 3 seeds and my 3 seeds could differ significantly.


I can tell you that the said former-nexian has been linked to a vendor that sold items that he recommended in his posts and that a lot of his research involved reporting results with substances no one else but him seemed to find active.

Then again he has posted a lot of useful information also.

Tropane alkaloids have been used in conjunction with ayahuasca, certainly for hundreds of years though, so there's definitely something in it, but I've never heard of datura stramonium seeds in a brew specifically. Usually some kind of flower to my knowledge.
 
 
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