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Enoon wrote:I'm not sure people really see the same entities. Perhaps it's just the words we use that are the same, while the experience itself is quite different? I know I've never seen the same entity twice, nor have I ever seen anything described by anyone else. I often think people see machine elves because they've listened to too much McKenna etc.
just my 2c. Sorry for derailing. Indeed, there is a lot to be said for suggestibility imo..its easy for us to grasp labels that are floating around to compartmentalise what we have witnessed.
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I gulped down Ayahuasca the first time about four years ago in Japan. Without having read much into the experience other than the puking, possibly shitting yourself and having to fast before hand and to avoid certain cheeses for fear of serotonin syndrome I proceeded. Really hadn't read a book- just picked up the ingredients online and went to work ... So when my living room became the jungle and the giant snake (ayahuasca) appeared I really hadn't expected it. But a snake there was, and only later did I find out that the snake is the commonest way Aya appears in visions. I find that well hard to explain. Second aya experience mostly made up of a preying mantis ---another very common sighting. The mind boggles.
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Yes, i think the reason why people experience more or less the same entities, snakes, machine elves, etc, is far more complicated than just being influenced by others experiences alone, it might play a role sometimes, it clearly does, but on other occasions you just know this wasn't the case. My friend who saw these snakes crawl all over his body had no idea this is a fairly common vision (snakes), he also saw a green entity take him by his arm to show him around, he didn't know a green entity is also something a lot of people experience, nor did he now it's a fairly common experience to be guided around in this other dimension by an entity. Another friend of mine had an experience where he saw tiny leprechauns work at a giant machine in a game like environment, i've read trip reports where people had a similar experience, this could of course be explained by McKenna's machine elves.Although it's remarkably similar to other experiences people had. That's why it's not so ludicrous at all to believe we are all connected, for example, sometimes you get an idea, and it is 100% authentic, it is your idea, you don't expect anyone else had the same idea before, it's very particular, only to discover other people came up with the same idea in more or less the same time span. I'm sorry, i just realized this is all very off topic, i hope it's ok? "Be Here Now" “The Universe is worked and guided from within outwards.”
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Around 20 years ago when I first experienced hyperspace, I'd read a lot of tmk, but my experiences with otherworldly intelligences seemed not much like his descriptions. After reading so much of people's experiences here, I find so many similarities. How this is possible is beyond me, but that's the mystery. I don't think we can ever understand it while we're in "normal" reality. Every time I get there, it's like "oh yeah, I forgot". And I try to remember and bring it back but I don't think it can be done.
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Wait, so the OP says he's gonna try taking a break in post #14, and then less than an hour later in post #16, he says he had a successful breakthrough? Huh? Did I miss something? Regardless, glad it worked out for you. POADS is gone!
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Post #14 and post #16 were four days apart! Not much of a break granted but was a little break ; )
After reading some posts about how Straussmans subjects never failed to break through I tried something a little different last night --- I railed 200mg pure powder. All I can say is wow !! That burns like a bastard but damned if it doesn't work well and for the best part of an hour.
For future research I'm dropping Maois and going with enhanced lead for a while.
Peace and light
Awooga
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ha, awooga, don't forget that Strassman's subjects were being delivered professional lab-grade DMT - intravenously!
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I agree with the the suggestions to take a break to integrate your experiences. It may be a red flag if you are becoming attached to your perceptions.
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Its your subconscious telling you to take a DMT break for a while... And why do you hate salvia? With right attitude..Salvia is capable of giving positive trips with awesome clairity and dementional travel.. I concider Salvia extract to be more powerfull than any DMT ive tryed yet...
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I've been taking a break with shrooms - in fact was on a couple grams when I railed that line last night. Anyway was great.
As for salvia --- just does not do anything meaningful for me. Aya, changa, mushrooms I have always taken lessons. My one lesson from salvia is it makes me think I'm nuts and shouldn't do it again. I agree it can be stronger than DMT for sure -- but I'm not able to control the experience. Glad you like it, just not for me.
If it wasn't such a waste I highly rate insulfating DMT anyway.
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And an epic dose of mushrooms last weekend out me so far out there that I'm in no rush to get back to that space for a while - I was in a real Philip K Dick headspace that was challenging but also certifiable. Will not be hitting changa all week and I'm never railing it again --- burns too much!! But what a blast off lol
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Hope I'm not coming across as reckless here - I'm very far from it. Well a tad maybe. But I'm mid thirties and traveled all around the world experiencing different psychedelics and cultures. Acid in Tokyo, mushrooms in Oaxaca and peyote in San Luis Potsi ... Been around the block and then some but thanks for the concern anyway --- I may need it? Second guessing myself now lol
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Makyo wrote:Yes, i think the reason why people experience more or less the same entities, snakes, machine elves, etc, is far more complicated than just being influenced by others experiences alone, it might play a role sometimes, it clearly does, but on other occasions you just know this wasn't the case.
My friend who saw these snakes crawl all over his body had no idea this is a fairly common vision (snakes), he also saw a green entity take him by his arm to show him around, he didn't know a green entity is also something a lot of people experience, nor did he now it's a fairly common experience to be guided around in this other dimension by an entity.
Another friend of mine had an experience where he saw tiny leprechauns work at a giant machine in a game like environment, i've read trip reports where people had a similar experience, this could of course be explained by McKenna's machine elves.Although it's remarkably similar to other experiences people had.
That's why it's not so ludicrous at all to believe we are all connected, for example, sometimes you get an idea, and it is 100% authentic, it is your idea, you don't expect anyone else had the same idea before, it's very particular, only to discover other people came up with the same idea in more or less the same time span.
I'm sorry, i just realized this is all very off topic, i hope it's ok?
I think we need to remember that we all share the same brain architecture plus a lot of similar cultural conditioning and almost global traditions, myths/legends, fairy tales and even education that is somewhat parallel. We all share some kind of basic psychology. It's not that far fetched to think that ingesting a certain substance the experiences will have similarities. I don't think we need to look for mystical connections or foreign dimensions to explain them. Now if you took an extra-terrestrial and gave him DMT and he would still have the same experiences, then perhaps we could look for ulterior explanations. Buon viso a cattivo gioco! --- The Open Hyperspace Traveler Handbook - A handbook for the safe and responsible use of entheogens. --- mushroom-grow-help ::: energy conserving caapi extraction
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Pile of cats wrote:This is what worked for me after I seemed to be shut out. Try and empty your mind of dmt and focus on this world for a while. Eventually you'll get a calling (came to me in the form of a dream) and then when the time is right go for it again. I had become locked into having very dysphoric, negative experiences and after doing the above I was welcomed back with opened arms and even told that I've come a long way since last time and am in a much better place for interdimensional travel Swim has only been having bad trips on dmt lately, always negative. Swim is wondering if this could be, because he is not in a good place in his life right now? He's been through an extremely rough year and is almost feeling like he is having a midlife crisis. He doesn't want to give up on Dmt though. The last few times he's smoked he has felt bad feelings in his penis, sometimes hot or burning and he has to pee really bad. The last time he smoked some was the worst, he was in a really depressed state and was looking for answers. He loaded a full bowl of dreams to the top, not even a weed screen and it was of stuff he thought to be the cleanest hes ever made. He washed it twice with sodium carbonate method and then recrystallized it. He took the deepest hit he could and held it for as long as he could and the minute he exhaled he got the weird feeling in his penis again, except this time it was the worst ever. He felt it get hot and burny, he honestly couldnt tell if it hurt or not, but it was definitely not comfortable. The feeling increased, to him thinking his penis completely fell off, he felt it in his hand, separated from his body still with the stinging burning feeling. He then fell over and hit his deck hard and all he could see was purple and green bright lights and the giant oak tree above him, which had turned into all squares. The body high this time also felt worse then ever, it literally felt like he was dying, he couldnt move, all he could do was lay there and think to himself, "just let it happen. If its meant to be its meant to be." Swim wonders if this could be from not being in a positive place in his life currently? Or could it just be contaminants in his product, hes smoked with a few friends and none of them have ever complained of anything similar. Have any of you ever had a bad feeling in your penis after or during your dmt trip? Could it even be that swim just can't handle smoking his own energy anymore? Cause in essence isn't that what swiy is doing when swiy cooks their own dreams?
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Droopy, sorry to hear you are having a hard time with DMT. I'll go into what you wrote in a second but first let me give you some forum advice: 1) Don't use SWIM or whatever - it just makes your posts more awkward to read but isn't fooling anyone, so no need to hide behind that kind of thing. 2) Don't hijack someone elses thread with your own problems. Start a new one, unless your problems are related and you can give some insight or empathise... Anyway. I have never had any bad feelings in my penis before, because I don't have one. However, the sensation you describe sounds like symptoms you would have with urinary tract infections or VD? DMT and other psychedelics can intensify all kinds of sensations, so perhaps you actually have some kind of problem in that area and should get it checked out? Try to be sensitive about it and see if you can discard it as an option or if there is something to it. On a more metaphorical/psychological level you could try to consider what this body part means to you and if perhaps there is something energetically askew in your life concerning sex or gender. If you are into Chacras and that kind of stuff take a look at what the base chacra is all about and see if you come up with any useful ideas of why you are experiencing blockage or pain in that area. It's not unusual for people to go through phases of harsh experiences. Sometimes people can pinpoint something specific in their life that is causing these negative experiences, then fixing it resolves the problem. But sometimes you just don't know. Since we are all constantly changing, chances are that if you give it a rest for a little - a few weeks or months - you will come back to DMT and everything will be ok again. If you know you've gone through a rough patch recently and are not fully out of it, it's very possible that your insides are too much in turmoil at the moment to have useful experiences with DMT. Why not take a rest, work towards growth on other levels and come back to DMT when you feel better/different. Buon viso a cattivo gioco! --- The Open Hyperspace Traveler Handbook - A handbook for the safe and responsible use of entheogens. --- mushroom-grow-help ::: energy conserving caapi extraction
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Alright thanks and sorry. I didn't mean to seem rude or anything and I just thought that the negative aspect was related.
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Droopy, do you do anything before you take a dose? Some sort of affirmation or banishing ritual, setting up a sacred space, saying a prayer ... whatever culture or belief system or even non belief system, taking a little time to focus could help maybe? Incense even, sage or my personal favorite - a few drops of florida water cast around the room. If you feel comfortable with it try clearing your chakras ... The fact you mention your penis (while mildly snigger-inducing) also suggests to me at least something in your lower chakra. Most traditions suggest you've got one right there, just around your knob. I used to get something in my neck * ( higher than heart ) that caused huge anxiety (when doing anything from pot to ecstasy )-- learning about chakras helped me with that *not a knob
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