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#1 Posted : 7/12/2014 2:57:18 AM

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SWIM wants to use Dried Psilocybe Cubensis, in a proper way, with set & setting. SWIM wants to learn, explore the mind and creativity. This is SWIM's 2nd attempt, the first attempt was at a low .25mg level, nothing happened. So now SWIM wants to take a higher dose (minimum amount) for a proper experience.

What sort of rituals do you do? Or recommend? Especially for "Psychedets"Smile

SWIM is also interested with Shamanism, In what ways can you approach this in a shamanic way?

Any other advice is welcome to! Smile

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#2 Posted : 7/12/2014 3:17:31 AM

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Hello & Welcome!

Set and setting are important. Early morning in a bright, open forest is a good place to begin. Fasting can help. Or perhaps in your own home with music or meditation, dance etc. There exists incredibly vast opinions on what environment or time of day to choose with mushrooms. It's all up to you and what works for you and your well-being. You shall find mushrooms rich in all of those aspects you describe.

Ime, mushrooms work the greatest for what I've already described but it's good to allow the experience unfold and be open to whatever you encounter. Be shamanistic to who and what you really are during the experience. Be honest and communicate, and spirit pours into perception of reality.. sometimes leading to life-changing experience. This I can relate to. It's a true psychedelic experience.

You don't need to use 'SWIM' on here, FYI. Really do hope you enjoy your travels. Smile
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#3 Posted : 7/12/2014 3:18:27 AM

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I would suggest at least eating 3.5 grams for what you'd call a spiritual experience or a shamanic experience. What I personally do, is take 5 dry grams alone in silent darkness.... The famous Terrence Mckenna method Thumbs up Enough to shatter even the most resistant of egos. Incredibly powerful and deep experiences that can end up being life changing. Look up Terrence Mckenna "How to take psychedelics" on youtube. You'll find a lot of great information there Drool Good luck and be safe
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Psycholexium528Hz*
#4 Posted : 7/12/2014 3:54:07 AM

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Thank you for the kind words. Smile Lol yeah I want to eventually work my way up to the Heroic dose Smile

I was planing to take them in my room, in the evening time. But there is a forest right next door, so Nature is very close to me.

As for music, Everyone has their tastes, for example I listen to psytrance,goa, shpongle, video game theme songs, some mainstream music etc. What sort of music goes well with the psilocybe experience?

I heard Terence Mckenna say. that during a rough trip, he started to sing, he said it helped. Also music seems to play a big role in Ayauasca ceremonies. So is the music moving the experience along or is it more of a tether to reality. Like a light house or Air trafic controller?

I also plan on fasting, before the experience, do a little meditation pryer.

Another question I have is that, I'm self teaching my self, to design 3D models in the computer (http://www.blender.org/), under the effect of a psychedelic, (in the case psilocybin), could that state help, with understanding/learning a 3D modeling program?
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Felnik
#5 Posted : 7/12/2014 4:18:43 AM

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I think outside in nature is an important part of a mushroom experience at some point.
The synergy between mushrooms and nature is a profound thing that has to be experienced .

Rhythmic chanting and moving can help when it gets intense . A lot of times it
comes on in waves that you have to ride out. The come up can be rough at times but once through to
the other side at least under good set & setting is always amazing .
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Psycholexium528Hz*
#6 Posted : 7/12/2014 5:03:42 AM

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Felnik wrote:
I think outside in nature is an important part of a mushroom experience at some point.
The synergy between mushrooms and nature is a profound thing that has to be experienced .

Rhythmic chanting and moving can help when it gets intense . A lot of times it
comes on in waves that you have to ride out. The come up can be rough at times but once through to
the other side at least under good set & setting is always amazing .


Thank you for the advice, I'm really looking forward to it Smile
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Tyler_Trismegistus
#7 Posted : 7/12/2014 10:43:57 AM

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Psycholexium528Hz* wrote:
Thank you for the kind words. Smile Lol yeah I want to eventually work my way up to the Heroic dose Smile

I was planing to take them in my room, in the evening time. But there is a forest right next door, so Nature is very close to me.

As for music, Everyone has their tastes, for example I listen to psytrance,goa, shpongle, video game theme songs, some mainstream music etc. What sort of music goes well with the psilocybe experience?

I heard Terence Mckenna say. that during a rough trip, he started to sing, he said it helped. Also music seems to play a big role in Ayauasca ceremonies. So is the music moving the experience along or is it more of a tether to reality. Like a light house or Air trafic controller?

I also plan on fasting, before the experience, do a little meditation pryer.

Another question I have is that, I'm self teaching my self, to design 3D models in the computer (http://www.blender.org/), under the effect of a psychedelic, (in the case psilocybin), could that state help, with understanding/learning a 3D modeling program?



How is blender? I've worked with poser and z brush myself. While you're intoxicated idk if you'll be able to do much like that Razz maybe on the comedown or afterwards though Smile
 
jamie
#8 Posted : 7/12/2014 4:58:15 PM

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most people dont need 5 grams of dry mushrooms to approach the level of effects described here. Mckenna was open about the fact that he was a hardhead..he also claimed he used 75mg vaped DMT to break through-keep that in mind.

Many people will only need 1-2g. Others more.

I used to read Mckenna like it was the bible, and dose like that. It would be really overkill. I would be eating 5g of cubensis and loose my mind for hours in hyperspace. I did it a lot about a decade ago at those doses over and over. Once I started to used wild psilocybe cyanescen species I also tried to dose that way and ate a big handful of them dry around 5-6g and that did it. I still dont think even DMT has presented the carrier wave in such full intensity.

Suffice to say, DMT never surprised me. I had been there countless times with mushrooms already. Still with 2g of dry cubensis I approach breakthroughs. Less and less and less is needed.
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#9 Posted : 7/12/2014 5:49:29 PM

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jamie said it well. you should work your way up until you comprehend what dose you'll need to measure to achieve the experience you desire. although i believe you can make the most out of any amout between >1g to over 5 and beyond.
first aknowledge your tolerance to the alkaloids, get to know the species.. a cubensis is a cubensis - don't matter the strain - but the time of harvest you got them can significantly change the potency of the mushroom.

i think the best setting is to be in nature but i'd only advice for you to go on a journey there if you can handle well your dosage at the time. a dark silent room, as tyler said, can to be a good (and safe) place for you to trip. it can get really intense though, make sure you train your mind first.

good luck! Thumbs up
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Psycholexium528Hz*
#10 Posted : 7/12/2014 10:56:58 PM

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Tyler_Trismegistus wrote:
Psycholexium528Hz* wrote:
Thank you for the kind words. Smile Lol yeah I want to eventually work my way up to the Heroic dose Smile

I was planing to take them in my room, in the evening time. But there is a forest right next door, so Nature is very close to me.

As for music, Everyone has their tastes, for example I listen to psytrance,goa, shpongle, video game theme songs, some mainstream music etc. What sort of music goes well with the psilocybe experience?

I heard Terence Mckenna say. that during a rough trip, he started to sing, he said it helped. Also music seems to play a big role in Ayauasca ceremonies. So is the music moving the experience along or is it more of a tether to reality. Like a light house or Air trafic controller?

I also plan on fasting, before the experience, do a little meditation pryer.

Another question I have is that, I'm self teaching my self, to design 3D models in the computer (http://www.blender.org/), under the effect of a psychedelic, (in the case psilocybin), could that state help, with understanding/learning a 3D modeling program?



How is blender? I've worked with poser and z brush myself. While you're intoxicated idk if you'll be able to do much like that Razz maybe on the comedown or afterwards though Smile



I really like Blender, its so much fun. And there are sooo much good quality tutorials on Youtube. Smile I will try to experiment with it on the comedown.
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