Hi all,

I've heard that Mescaline is similar to MDMA in some ways and am curious to hear about anyone actually taking at a night club/rave at the lower dose ranges?

Growing a few hundred cacti seedlings at the moment, so still very interested in going deep with it as an entheogen, but since I don't drink alcohol anymore, I'd like to discover its social potential aswell.

All input is appreciated,
Love,
The Unknowing

i personally encourage sober partying, but there is no reason that it would not induce a similar if not more favorable experience to/than mdma in that setting...depending on various factors you might experience some nausea that would be uncomfortable to deal with in that setting

For me, going to a night club - even sober - would likely not be too fun. I don't think mescaline could change that for me. But, doing the things that I enjoy doing, while on mescaline, are very fun.

I have had a great time watering plants, staring at the moon, listening to music, drawing, and just relaxing at home. I enjoy doing all that stuff sober, so mescaline was a treat.

If you like night clubs and raves, I bet mescaline would make them pretty fun. I'd probably Try a low dose First.

Let me put it into one word for you:

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

The only thing mescaline has in common with MDMA is the body high. Even on a low dose, you might get floored and giggle to yourself about how tingly you feel, and also mescaline tends to make me pretty lethargic. I've gone to nightclubs whilst tripping before, and while it was an interesting experience, I really would not recommend it. Far too enclosed, everything is confusing, and everyone seems alien to your own little world. Works nicely at a festival, but the difference there is you can get away. Also, remember you might well be sick on mescaline, and therefore chucked out and on your own.

I think just stick to mandy with the nightclubs, or go sober. You might get more of a kick if you just unleash yourself whilst sober. Try tripping hard the night before, then dancing to celebrate the day after

Hmmmm

This is the question I wanted to ask, actually... Since I don't drink nor do coke, or X, I am,left with nothing to party...

But not only party, just in general, social gatherings are boring.

I was thinking, deciding the amount,,before the party or event, light dose of course could be good idea. I will try it some time.

I also heard that in Argentina and Uruguay, is the party drug, so.... Sounds good to me.

Each to their own but it would be a big NO for me. I felt a bit closed in even in my own living room. I imagine a club woulde been horrible. Outdoors among nature in peace and quiet is where I feel best on cacti.

Jox, if you are at a bit of a loss on that front, there's plenty of other approaches.

Weed + espresso.
Tramadol + valium.
Just valium.
Just tramadol.

Personally, I'm getting a little long in tooth to care too much about getting intoxicated at parties. But I see it like this, there's the right drugs for the right occasions. Mescaline at anything with people not tripping sounds like an awful idea, particularly at nightclubs/parties as it hardly makes you Mr Social. Booze, coke, mandy, and speed generally all help, but if you've ruled them out (and with good reason!), then you also limit your options. You could just crack them out occasionally if you have the control, or find other substances if you so desire. Or just go sober. Just don't go to a gun fight with a knife

We're starting to stray out of discussion of the classical psychedelics, which is what this forum is about. This seems like bluelight discussion.

Word of warning about espresso + weed: this combination could potentially trigger serious anxiety if the wrong person tries it. I find caffeine makes me incredibly anxious even while sober, the idea of combining it with weed, in a highly stimulating environment like a club seems like a recipe for being overwhelmed and overstimulated.

Also, can we not recommend recreational opiate abuse on The Nexus? That is almost never a good idea. Tramadol and vallium is mixing opiates and benzos, which is not a great idea as the risk of overdose goes up. Also it sounds like it doesn't lend itself to the club at all: you'll get really sedated.

As for the OP: Mescaline (like most 5-HT agonists) is mildly sedating, so you certainly won't get that "I can dance for hours" feel you get from MDMA. You need the dopamine/norepinepherine activity for that. Mescaline also isn't really entactogenic, so you'll probably miss that as well.

If you want an MDMA experience, take MDMA. There's no a whole lot else like it out there, unless you feel like messing around with really obscure research chemicals.

Blessings
~ND

I say hell to the yes yes yes.

Mescaline is my favourite substance for social interactions. I use around 75mg for airport anxiety, 150mg for evenings with friends and up to around 600mg for partying.

My spiritual work sessions I either go solo or in a safe place with close friends go for around 1g so I'd party with around 50% of that as it doesn't involve too much stomach cramping/general discomfort and disorientation. With pure mescaline I get complete stimulation without feeling jittery and no drowsiness. I wonder if people who report this latter effect are actually using pure product.

I should also note that the higher social dose I listed I use at parties where that sort of thing isn't out of place and I'd usually be around people on LSD as opposed to MDMA, amphetamines or more popular 'party' drugs. I think thats very important.


So that's my experience. The responsible thing to do is to trial the substance yourself at various dosages and then decide if it's right for you. As a sufferer of mild social anxiety I find I perform better socially with mescaline more than sober or under the influence of any other substance.

Hey soulfood (first i read soulfool ), do you use it often (i know, everything is relative), and if yes, what about tolerance ?

I'm a mescaline virgin but i'm looking for as much as possible information because i'm the happy owner of 3 different samples of cacti .

Shanghigher, as a mescaline lover, you are allowed to chime in.




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I'd never use mescaline at a club, but then i dont go to clubs anyways
i would say i feel much more social on mescaline than on lsd or shrooms

Some friends and I had a fantastic time at a Phish show on some bridgesii tea. Pretty perfect for the occasion. Some may say this isn't a sacred use, but I think amazingly fun times with good friends is one of the most sacred things in life.

I took mescaline and went to the winter 2010 olympics, if that counts. Hell of a lot more people than a nightclub.

<3 that's what I've started to realize. You can go as deep as you want into the rabbit hole but will eventually come out realizing you should be spending your life doing the things you love with the people you love.

Soulfood, I want to come to one of your parties!

Agree on the point about time with friends being sacred. Actually a little down in the dumps today because I'm way up in the north of the country and all my best friends are down south and I haven't seen any of them in too long. On the trip front, I've had amazing times tripping with friends and siblings, although my most enlightening experiences have been from going high dose solo.

DansMaTete, I've attempted doing mescaline after LSD twice now. Once in cactus ball form one day removed from a LSD trip at a festival, and it didn't work out all that well. Fireworks looked amazing, but then had some pretty crippling anxiety about the mud which was so thick and sticky you had to use all your strength to take a step, and when you are my size, it tires you out very quickly (6'6 and former rugby player if you are wondering). The second time was 6 days removed from a 300ug trip, and 800mg got me tripping, but it was ++ at best. For this reason, I'd suggest making sure you have a three week window before the mescaline, and don't expect to take it any time soon after.

Are you just going to eat the cactus? If so, which kind of cacti do you have, how much are you planning to eat, and how to you plan to eat it?

PS. Apologies, Dread. Was just thinking out loud for the man not taking the party classics, as it were. Most traditional parties/nightclubs generally don't lend themselves to psychedelics all that well IMO. The valium/tramadol combination has worked very well for me at social events before (at low doses), but you will hardly be shaking your stuff all night, and quite right to stay away from tramadol and other opiates. Valium by itself, however, I consider an essential its pretty much the only drug that's any use in a psychedelic emergency and has also helped me mentally park many an acid trip so I can actually get some sleep.

Going to make a bridgesii cacti smoothie. Will experiment with the cactus solo for a while so I get familiar with the dosage- don't want to start tripping heavy amidst a crowd of people. Will probably end up doing an extraction and taking capsules for social experimentation, while blending/brewing the cacti for solitary exploration.

Yeah, I normally just use HCL these days as it's so much easier on the gut and intake. That said, there's something to be said for the hardcore route of going via cactus.

My first mescaline experience was a cactus smoothie. While eating the thing (it was far too thick to drink) was one of the most disgusting experiences of my life, it was worth every rancid drop. I ended up mixing 60-70g (I wasn't paying attention) of blended dried cactus with a regular smoothie, sugar, honey, whatever else I could stick in there. Still tasted awful. But, like I said, worth it.

I've also tried balls, which I don't recommend as they are really, really hard to get down, and grinding the whole thing up and sticking them in gel caps, which you can obtain fairly easily and legally with a google search. The plus side of the caps is that you don't taste a thing. The downside is you need to fill them, and each one only takes a gram. You've also got to scoff down a good 50 of those suckers to get tripping. When I did that, it didn't work. I blame a dud cactus, but I haven't attempted it twice, so have no frame of reference.

Tea is supposed to work great, I'm just not patient enough to go through the brewing stages (yet patient enough to pack 100 capsules - go figure). Extract is probably the best way to go, and HCL is by far the smoothest. Just weigh it up, plop it in a glass of water, stir, and down it. And yet, despite numerous mescaline experiences, it was still that disgusting cactus smoothie of unspecified quantity of mescaline which delivered the greatest psychedelic experience of my life.

I don't use it very often at all to be honest.

Certainly not often enough to be concerned with tolerance. Mescaline isn't really abundant unless you have a massive collection and you're constantly harvesting it or have good access to synthetic mescaline or such.

I find I'm lucky if I get even a gram out of 12 inches of thick peruvianus, but I have been lucky once or twice

I´ve been to quite a few concerts on extracted mescaline or crude cactus tea resin, and it was excellent. Mostly low-mid doses. Felt quite social, a good empathic feeling. I would not do it in a night club if it does not have a good environment though, or at least it must have great music and being able to dance with eyes closed

I definitely think Mescaline is more conducive to social behavior, but I don't think I personally would head to a night club.

I once ate a half gram and went to a sold out show with the royal ballet. Very enlightening experience but the contrast of money and wealth with this lovely craft was somewhat unsettling. I think seeing shirtless muscle clad punters chewing their face off might be uncomfortable also. Mescaline is still a psychedelic so people can seem strange