It looks to me that lye is used in the production of dmt because of its high alkaline content and I found it interesting that urine the longer it is fermented increases its ph starting fresh it is slightly acidic but as time goes on maybe a month or two it increases all the way up to 10 or so. here is where I find it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8jb1zbgmTw (check description)

I've seen that urine has been used for soap making in the past also and part of my reasoning to why it could be a replacement, also it is safe and food grade I myself know urine is sterile and to proof it for myself drink it semi-regularly.

Im not to into the science parts of it so that is why I post here, Thanks if anyone here can help

It might be sterile, but it's also where the kidneys ultimately expel toxins, so I'd recommend not drinking it.

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Dont drink apple juice at his house.

...Two month 'fermented' (rotted) pee is not sterile, dont expect it to be. Its also not the toxicological equivalent of fresh pee. And your probably not in the habit of smoking it any way, are you?
And if you do smoke your dried pee, what breath mint do you use? I expect, by sheer necessity, you've found the most efficacious brand on the market.

But yes, aged pee is a source of ammonia.

At pH 10 it is not a good general replacement for lye. Baking soda perhaps and maybe also washing soda..

Don't come asking here why your DMT is yellow

hahaha! this thread made my day! Now.i.imagine OP doing an acid-piss extraction, its the future! Piss and pull freebasing method??
People dont get too close and dangle your tackle in a pH 2 solution! Should be added to the health and safety section..

A tangent, I know, but…

http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/05/urine-and-the-bladder-are-not-sterile-contain-bacteria/

Well I think you guys should do a couple searches on urine therapy because it is known to have anti-bacterial property's. Also that urine comes from the blood when the blood has to much of an excess(vitimin,hormone, meltonin in the morning,mushroom, water) it releases in the urine
this is ancient knowledge and many millions of people do it around the world.
here are a couple videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YOhksXK0_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbNE2Ycpg2k

This is a great question.

IF you evap the water from the urine wont it increase the ph?

What I really wanted to know is how to isolate the ammonia from my cat's pee. In keeping with the beliefs of native americans like to use all the animal ya know.

You could probably boil and distill your urine and produce 100% courage.

I tried to raise the PH of my mimosa-vinegar soup using my fermented urine, but right after i peed in the jar Bear Grylls appeared in front of me, drank the entire jar of mhrb-piss-vinegar solution and proceeded to mug me whilst smoalking a cuban cigar. What did I do wrong?

There are other easily workable bases found in nature that are less icky than urine. Some strong bases start from really benign materials like wood or seashells. But I can understand the drive to attain knowledge of all material with a high PH.

That picture is golden

Godsmacker and sØrce, 'ed for 10 minutes.

pH10 is not high enough for DMT to be properly basified. Not to mention if the base comes from ammonia then it should be noted that ammonia causes drastic decreases in yield. Clean ammonia is not suitable for this extraction, I doubt nasty peemonia would be any better.

On a side note, urine does contain DMT to begin with...

It is for an Acid/Base extraction. It isn't for a Straigh To Base extraction. Ph 10 will freebase the DMT just fine, what it won't do is lyse plant cell walls to release the DMT.

yes for sure dmt is in urine, I have first hand experience with this when I drink urine the dreams are so much more lucid and I can remember almost all of it, and when I don't I don't remember removed. now the next question is if you smoke/do aya can it be released into the urine as excess because it sure works with weed and mushrooms. maybe it would work if you did mao then urine for sure I'll be testing this.

Why are you creating a link between your dream recall after drinking urine and urine containing DMT? This makes no sense for a couple reasons. The amount of DMT in your urine is in trace amounts and DMT is broken down in the gut by monoamine oxidase. Not to mention that there is no known link between DMT and dreaming.

Theredplum so what you're saying, if i am correct, is that you can get high from drinking your piss after eating weed and mushrooms. I must ask how and why this would work and why and how would you drink your own piss if you weren't Bear Grylls. For some reason I can't help but think that drinking your own piss right after smoalking a joint wouldn't get you high; but that is only an untested hypothesis!

Well at least it works for mushrooms Even though I dont know why urine makes for easier dream recall and I have heard this with others. It could be the extra melatonin and serotonin.

For the weed I think it was a late night joint and then the person drank the mornings urine and had a real chill feeling. http://youtu.be/ITSzE8I30HQ?t=42m34s

Don't smoke the yellow crystals...