Hi everyone im after a bit of help with 2 Different Extractions that i have ended with 2 different results i have done on the (LexTek extraction V1) ATB i am using (Acacia Obtusifolia)


Shellite
caustic soda
Tank rain water
vinegar
Acacia Obtusifolia
Digital Ph Meter but seems to have started to read inaccurately from build up




it was left in freezer over night lots of white fluffy things floating around and some water which is the large bit floating in the third picture, I then tried to evaporate with a hair dryer and the crystals slowly dissolved and when evap'ed it ended up turning into a sticky whitish clear residue in some places alot like clear toffee and when i tried to scrape it it turned into yellow slimy substance i left in the sun to evap and it was left with nearly no crystal's but i did see and moved crystals in the bowl before evaporating that where definitely the goods







i did another pull on the basified mix and there is no where near the amount of white suspension as there was in the first freeze on first pull, i poured off the shellite and let evap in front of the air conditioner and it ended up a tacky clear layer so i put some fresh shellite in and put in a heat bath to redissolve but the sticky tacky substance would not dissolve in the shellite i then let it precip in the freezer and this is the results



2 extraction
there is these white long chunks that are not crystals and when i moved with a needle they break and as it hits the air dissolves into a sticky clump nothing like the first extraction and it was done the same way other then leaving the bark in acid step for longer and probably more heat at around 60-65 degrees during the first acid step and when using heat baths but nothing was over 50 in the mix





I have another precipitation dish that is the same extraction as above i just couldn't put all the shellite in the one precipitation dish and it has not been touched i am going to leave it for 2 or 3 days and see if there is much of a difference


Have i let my mixture get to hot in first acid stage it was upto around 65 degrees
have i let my mixture get to hot in Heat bathing during shellite pulls didnt go over 48 degrees
The first extraction i could see the the white powder forming as it hit the cold dish i was using for freeze precip and looked very good but am i ment to slowly adjust the temperature to freeze precip or is straight in the freezer ok
i have read that water oxidises dmt at around a ph of 7 is that correct if so would it affect dmt alot in freeze precip because alot of my mixes even when covered with cling wrap have had water but only a couple of drops

I admit I've never used anything other then ACRB so I can't give you any tips ! Sorry

But I can give advice with temps !

First of all don't use a hair dryer !

From what I've learnt is 65c is high for acidifying , 45 is the correct temp , and leave to room temp whilst pulling with hot shellite !

I go strait to tge freezer after pulling but the shellite buy that stage is at approx room temp !! So I can't tell you were you're water is coming from unless it's from the warm shellite being covered in clingwrap causing condensation !

So i had some better results on another pull i poured the shellite off after i blew on the mix for awhile and the crystals or formed a group and stuck to the glass they are still abit wet in this photo but they are alot drier at the moment i will post more photos in an hour or so
the last mix looked exactly the same that is pictured above with lots of white fluffy crystals. i just shouldn't have evaped and put a hair dryer on it and insted should have got crystals to stick and pored shellite off then evap without any heat or force of air

Ive found that putting my naphtha into a mason jar and in the freezer,then freeze preciping it and decanting most of the naphtha off into another jar and pouring whatever crystals that are floating around onto a clear glass plate and setting it in front of a window air conditioning unit to evaporate works great for me.

The tricky part is getting all the crystals that like to stick to the sides of the post freeze precip jar off the sides of the jar and onto a plate.

First I decant 2/3rds of the naphtha and scrape any crystals I can into the naphtha, and pour this onto a plate.Tilt the plate so the crystals stick to the plate and the naphtha pools to one side of the plate,I then use a turkey baster syringe to suck the extra naphtha off the plate and use it to wash the sides of the jar to get any crystals I didn't get in the 1st pour.Repeat this pouring crystals/tilting plate/sucking residual naphtha/,squirting residual naphtha in jar containing crystals/swirling and scraping crystals into residual naphtha /pour onto plate/repeat as necessary,then suck the residual naphtha off the plate and add to the 2/3rds naphtha set aside to use for any subsequent pulls on plant material.put plate in front of a window ac unit to dry.Scrape up in about 30 mins.smoke.

All the spice in the photos is gone,i had it in something that got thrown out in the trash all I have left now are the photos of it. Make sure you put your stuff somewhere it can't get thrown out by significant others.

I love pics so here are a few.

From 500gm mhrb.

2nd pull
3rd pull
pulls4,5,6 combined
pulls4,5,6 combined
pulls4,5,6 combined

Thanks for your reply do you use distilled water because it doesnt matter what i try i end up with a thin sticky layer that makes it really hard to seperate the crystals because they are stuck in the clear layer i am not sure what the clear layer is but my crystals also desolve really quickly into a sticky mess when out of the naptha if they are still wet can anyone explain why this is happening i have got great white fluffy crystals from the same extractions which is pictured above

Hi aussietripper , that clear sticky layer is the dreaded goo ppl speak of , it's still smokes ok as it contains a lot nmt ( I think ) and weighs quite a lot more then crystals but it is a hassle to deal with ,,

You can do three things , 1) do a Mini ATB on the naphtha pulls before freeze precipe to defat the naps then repulling and freeze precipe as normal !

2) just dissolve it all in acetone then use the acetone to infuse some herb of you're choice !

3) or just battle you're way through and patiantly wait for it all to dry completely then scrap as normal !!