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Guyomech
#41 Posted : 6/24/2014 3:25:47 PM

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I believe UC is asking her; if he has trouble reaching her I'll ask Simon.
 

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#42 Posted : 7/2/2014 9:23:50 PM



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That's too funny we were thinking of the same person Smile

She responded and is very interested in taking a look at it the project!



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#43 Posted : 7/3/2014 4:04:53 PM

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Great stuff, UC!

I guess the next step will be pulling together the script from what's been posted here. I'll take a look and get it up in the next couple of days.

Guyomech, are you still okay to do some video stuff for it?
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#44 Posted : 7/3/2014 4:52:37 PM

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I might have some time to film a bit now - I could perhaps get some under water shots of waves / the surface from below, things like that - with the GoPro. I have limited internet bandwith here so I could put up really compressed versions first and if you like any of the clips I could give you an uncompressed version. It'll take a few more days probably though.

If you have any other ideas for under-water shots (ocean) you'd like, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
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Shanghigher
#45 Posted : 7/3/2014 5:00:58 PM

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Sure, why not? No massive time limit on this. I'm thinking you are going to mess around with the GoPro regardless, so if you get anything you think would be good for the project, just let us know Thumbs up
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Guyomech
#46 Posted : 7/3/2014 7:26:22 PM

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The underwater shots sound great! Some surface ripple refraction action would also be cool. You can use my FTP to upload files up to 5gb. If they are bigger you can upload them in 5gb stages, and I can download and delete each stage to make up more space. MPEG compression is fine.

It looks like we have our voice volunteer, so we just need to go over that script a few more times so we can send it to her. Here's my two cents, edited into Enoon's version:


Breathe.

Relax.

You are going to be okay.

You are on a drug, but you will come down. You'll return to familiar reality, and it will welcome you back with warm, loving arms.

Think of reality as a planet, and you on a slingshot orbit. No matter how you feel right now, reality’s gravity is too strong to let you go. You will return. This is a certainty. Many have gone before you, and many will go after. They all come back, and so will you.

Meanwhile, the hours ahead could be the most enjoyable and enlightening hours of your life, if you let them.

Find a comfortable place. Walk, don’t run. You are in control.

Find a place where you feel safe.

Quiet down for a moment. Let the silence replace the turmoil in your head.

Make yourself warm – get a blanket or a jacket or a hoodie. Dim the lights; Relax. Drink. Get yourself comfortable. Sit or lay down.

Don’t worry if things look and feel weird. They’ll be normal soon enough.


The sensation you are having will pass, and your body and mind will be fine. You will come down.

Breathe.

Relax.


Don't fight what is happening to you.

Imagine a river, and in this river, imagine a rock. The water will rush against the rock and weather away at it, while the river will continue to flow regardless. Be the river, not the rock. Go with the flow. Let the drug work its magic. Let yourself wander. Let yourself go.

Release.


Just to be safe, don’t take any more, and don’t do any other drug you have nearby. If you’ve made it as far as this video, you don’t have anything to worry about.


You may be seeing :

memories,

connections,

actions...

all in a new light.


Embrace your emotions. Your wounds, your weaknesses. Embrace your fears and answer them with love and forgiving.

Let your emotions out, and then think about what you’ve learned.


From here, you might feel your connection to the universe,

your own place in the world

A world with no barriers.


Think about your life.

Think about joy and love and what they mean to you.



Soon, this video will end, but the drug will continue.


You can use this experience to learn a great deal about yourself and your place in the world.

Just let the drug do what it is meant to do, and remember it is just a drug, and will wear off eventually. Accept that you chose to have this experience, that it can show you things that may help you with your life and your happiness. In the meantime, go with the flow, and learn to enjoy this moment of self-exploration.

Put on some music you love. It can help you in your journey.

This drug can also show you immense beauty, both within and around you, if only you let it.

If you are still nervous and need someone experienced to talk to, links will be appearing on this video showing online communities where people are available right now who can talk to you about what you are going through.

Embrace the experience. Be the river.

Relax.

Breathe.

 
BecometheOther
#47 Posted : 7/7/2014 12:08:44 AM

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Im still onboard with some relaxing and encouraging ambient music for the video as soon as there is something to go off of or really whenever you are ready for me., Please PM me shanghigher, once you are ready for music to be added and well see if it lines up!
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Guyomech
#48 Posted : 7/7/2014 1:28:45 AM

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As I believe I'll be doing the final edit, probably the thing to do is get the voice part nailed down first and then write the score to fit. There may be a few switches in the music at strategic moments, that kind of thing. So I guess the order of events now is:

> finish script
> submit script to vocalist, who may have feedback/ suggestions
> record voice
> make voice edit, which might involve starting with multiple recordings and making a clean edit from there
> script types of music for each part, where changes would be, etc
> record music
> do final sound edit

This list doesn't mention the video part of the editing and just concerns the sound part. So... Script comments, anyone?
 
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#49 Posted : 7/7/2014 1:45:35 AM

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Breathe.

Relax.

You are going to be okay.

You are on a drug, but you will come down. You'll return to familiar reality, and it will welcome you back with warm, loving arms.

Think of reality as a planet, and yourself on a slingshot orbit. No matter how you feel right now, reality’s gravity is too strong to let you go. You will return. This is a certainty. Many have gone before you, and many will go after. They all come back, and so will you.

Meanwhile, the hours ahead could be the most enjoyable and enlightening hours of your life, if you allow them to be.

Find a comfortable place. Walk. There's no need to run. You are in control.

Find a place where you feel safe.

Quiet down for a moment. Allow yourself to be calm. Let the silence replace the turmoil in your head.

Make yourself warm – get a blanket or a jacket or a hoodie. Dim the lights and Relax. Drink. Make yourself comfortable. Sit or lay down.

Don’t worry if things look and feel weird. They’ll be back to normal soon enough.


The sensations you are having will pass, and your body and mind will be fine. You will come down.

Breathe.

Relax.

Let go.


Don't fight what is happening to you.

Imagine a river, and in this river, imagine a rock. The water rushes against the rock and withers away at it, while the river continue to flow regardless. Be the river, not the rock. Go with the flow. Let the drug work its magic. Let yourself wander. Let yourself go.

Release.


Just to be safe, don’t take any more, and don’t take any other drugs you have nearby. If you’ve made it to this video, you don’t have anything to worry about.


You may be seeing:

memories,

connections,

actions...

all in a new light.


Embrace your emotions. Your wounds, your weaknesses. Embrace your fears and answer them with love and forgiveness.

Let your emotions out, and then think about what you’ve learned.


From here, you might feel your connection to the universe,

your own place in the world

A world with no boundaries.


Think about your life.

Think about joy and love and what they mean to you.



Soon, this video will end, but the drug will continue.


You can use this experience to learn a great deal about yourself and your place in the world.

Just let the drug do what it is meant to do, and remember it is just a drug, and will wear off eventually. Accept that you chose to have this experience, that it can show you things that may help you with your life and your happiness. In the meantime, go with the flow, and learn to enjoy this moment of self-exploration.

Put on some music you love. It can help you in your journey.

This drug can also show you immense beauty, both within and around you, if you only let it.

If you are still nervous and need someone experienced to talk to, links will be appearing on this video shortly. They will show you online communities where people can are available right now talk to you about what you are going through.

Embrace the experience. Be the river.

Relax.

Breathe.
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pinkoyd
#50 Posted : 7/7/2014 2:47:48 AM

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After a quick read, having just diescovered the thread I'm loving this project.

If I may make a suggestion with the text though, change "Be the river, not the rock" to "Be the river, leave the rock behind." Avoids a negative, feels more inviting.
I already asked Alice.

 
universecannon
#51 Posted : 7/7/2014 3:21:15 AM



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I would suggest changing some uses of the word "drug" in the script to "psychedelic" or "entheogen", or something along those lines, as these have a much better sound to them and less negative mental baggage/associations attached to them, and we all know deep seated thought patterns/conditioning/associations can occasionally spring up in a trip or have unconscious undercurrents. Although some instances of the word "drug" here would be better replaced with "experience" etc.

Also maybe something on 'smiling' after that "breath. relax. let go." part, simply to encourage them to smile. Even forcing a smile or especially a laugh can have an amazing positive effect on trips and our brain chemistry/activity.

Also, in the following line I changed "forgiving" to "forgiveness":

"Embrace your fears and answer them with love and forgiving.".

I've edited snozz's version with the above changes and some other small ones, along with pinkoyds good suggestions.

Quote:

Breathe.

Relax.

You are going to be okay.

You are having a psychedelic experience, but you will come down. You will return to familiar reality, and it will welcome you back with warm, loving arms.

Think of reality as a planet, and yourself on a slingshot orbit. No matter how you feel right now, reality’s gravity is too strong to let you go. You will return. This is a certainty. Many have gone before you, and many will go after. They all come back, and so will you.

Meanwhile, the hours ahead could be the most enjoyable and enlightening hours of your life, if you simply allow them to be.

Find a comfortable place. Walk. There's no need to run. You are in control.

Find a place where you feel safe.

Quiet down for a moment. Allow yourself to be calm. Let the silence replace the turmoil in your head.

Make yourself warm – get a blanket or a jacket or a hoodie. Dim the lights and Relax. Drink some water. Make yourself comfortable. Sit or lay down.

Don’t worry if things look and feel weird. They’ll be back to normal soon enough.


The sensations you are having will pass, and your body and mind will be fine. You will come down.

Breathe.

Relax.

Let go.

Smile.

You will be amazed at how much your experience can change by something as simple as a smile or laugh... They can fill your heart with love and your head with light, whenever you want.


Don't resist what is happening to you.

Imagine a river, and in this river, imagine a rock. The water rushes against the rock and withers away at it, while the river continue to flow regardless. Be the river, leave the rock behind. Go with the flow. Let the entheogen work its magic. Let yourself wander. Let yourself go.

Release.


Just to be safe, don’t take any more, and don’t take any other drugs you have nearby. If you have made it to this video, you don’t have anything to worry about.


You may be seeing:

memories,

connections,

actions...

all in a new light.


Embrace your emotions. Your wounds, your weaknesses. Embrace your fears and answer them with love and forgiveness.

Let your emotions out, and see what you can learn from them.


From here, you might feel your connection to the universe,

your own place in the world

A world with no boundaries.


Think about your life.

Think about joy and love and what they mean to you.



Soon, this video will end, but the experience you are having will continue for the time being.


You can use this experience to learn a great deal about yourself and your place in this beautiful world we have all been gifted.


Just let this journey you are having unfold as it was meant to, and remember that it is just a temporary drug experience, and will wear off eventually. Accept that you chose to have this experience, that it can show you things that may help you with your life and your happiness. In the meantime, go with the flow, and learn to enjoy this moment of self-exploration.

Put on some music you love. It can help you in your journey.

This experience can also reveal to you immense beauty, both within and around you, if you only let it.

Just let go.

Breathe deep, slow, relaxed breaths.

If you are still nervous and need someone experienced to talk to, links will be appearing on this video shortly. They will show you online communities where people are available right now talk to you about what you are going through.

Embrace the experience. Be the river.

Relax.

Breathe.

Smile.



<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
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#52 Posted : 7/7/2014 7:41:04 PM

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If you guys are interested I have some video of two ducks in a creek. About 15min worth. 1920x1080

I just shot the video this morning actually and thought it might be useable here. So lemme know if I need to upload it somewhere or what.
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Shanghigher
#53 Posted : 7/8/2014 12:35:10 PM

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Glad to see this is all coming along nicely. Apologies for not pulling together the script just yet. I'm on deadlines at the moment, so busy time on the keyboard here. Should be free in a couple of days to do a final draft, but in the meantime, keep on suggesting tweaks etc.

Guyomech, sounds like a plan on the production front. Exciting stuff!
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Guyomech
#54 Posted : 7/8/2014 3:18:53 PM

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I think our script is pretty close. It would be nice to get it in front of more eyes before we finalize it, but it's close. Anilah's may also have ideas, since it'll be coming from her voice.

Anrchy is going on a video expedition this weekend to try getting some creek/rock footage.
 
Shanghigher
#55 Posted : 7/15/2014 2:09:17 PM

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After a re-read of the latest version, I think we are actually pretty much ready to go with that. Seeing as no-one else seems to have anything to add, I'm ready to call that our final collective draft before passing it on over to the voice.

Just a little side note for UC. I'm happy with the word 'drug' as it's a sobering, anchoring thought (as in "Oh yeah, I'm on drugs"Pleased. Psychedelic also works. But I wouldn't use entheogen as it's not a commonly used word (I barely encountered it at all before coming to this forum) and I'd rather use words that are widely understood rather than throwing people a curve ball on the literary front whilst on a bad trip (as in "an entheogen? WTF is an entheogen? Does it have teeth? ohgodohgodohgodohgod..." etc).
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Guyomech
#56 Posted : 7/15/2014 3:40:58 PM

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I tend to agree... "Drug" has some connotations connected to it but for the purpose of this video it's a good shorthand for reaching the struggling viewer. At least once. And I also agree about "entheogen"; there is another time and place for teaching that term. "Substance", "psychedelic"... Probably avoid "hallucinogen" for being overlong and possibly having scary undertones. But yeah, besides these points, maybe it's time to run it by Drea to see if she has any final thoughts. Apparently she has some training in sound therapy, may have some good insights about exact wording. UC, do you want to pass it her way?

Simon Haiduk (who did the visuals for Calling The Others) is interested in doing some After Effects work on this. For example, with the river/rock sequence, he could add some floating luminous sparks. Naturalistic/magical as opposed to over-the-top trippy.
 
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#57 Posted : 7/16/2014 2:10:16 AM

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A bad trip remedy song..hmm nice idea. I will get working on one. Take as much from what you wrote as possible. I think the general breathe, relax, your going to be ok is a massive help if said with a soothing voice and with some nice ambient sounds.
 
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#58 Posted : 7/17/2014 11:05:11 AM



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Great points people.

Sorry I haven't been around at all this week- been basically off grid on an island and am leaving again today until sunday night. In the meantime, I'll send it over to drea right now to get her thoughts on it.



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#59 Posted : 7/17/2014 11:23:07 AM

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I'm liking this script. Would come in extremely helpful when needed.

I would put a direct link on a laptop or computer to the video, so easy to find when needed, also maybe an MP3 version could assist if one has a player. Then could simply lay back with headphones and listen to the calming voice.

Looking forward to the production Smile

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Guyomech
#60 Posted : 7/17/2014 3:21:40 PM

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Yamma, that's a good point: no reason this shouldn't work just as well as a sound-only production. We'll keep that option on the table for sure.
 
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