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#1 Posted : 6/29/2014 8:24:51 PM

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Hello,

If you go without sleep for days you end up going crazy, you feel like you want to die, it causes loads of problems with the organs such as heart,muscles,eyes,brain,etc .... and more negative effects.

Now, if you go in your bedroom and get it dark fully, also be taking melatonin every 12 hours and have a blind fold maybe around your eyes..... maybe some kava or other to make you sleep.


and you stay in darkness and mostly sleep for the 3 days....



or even 2 days full sleep/ most sleep.




how would it effect you after the sleep?. feel better?..


 

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#2 Posted : 6/29/2014 8:56:42 PM

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It depends what you do before hand.. such as heavy cardiac exercise or running. With that you may feel refreshed afterwards. However, you'd be sleeping for a long time so you may just end up feeling even more tired afterwards. The body may not even allow you to sleep that long.. even with melatonin or kava. Probably some vivid dreams, though.
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#3 Posted : 6/30/2014 12:20:35 AM



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Well there is a very ancient tradition of prolonged immersion in darkness in order to produce a heightened state of consciousness... and modern day "dark-rooming", where people stay in darkness sometimes for more than 2 weeks at a time, seems to produce profound psychedelic effects in many that have now dubbed it "endo-huasca". So, having worked with melatonin a lot in combination with psychedelics and other techniques, I'd imagine that taking a lot of melatonin would speed up the process somewhat. For me melatonin has subtle harmala/tryptamine qualities to it at times, and it seems to fine-tune things and work like a deep mind lubricant that goes very well with other approaches.

3 days probably won't result in anything too crazy, but I wouldn't be surprised if one felt great afterwards.



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#4 Posted : 7/2/2014 12:00:16 AM

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Good question. Hard to answer, as my experience with melatonin has not been so good, effects are varied. Besides that, certainly sleep heals, ask anyone who has had mono! All I can provide of use here are linkages that have come to mind:

-I believe I read of a Mayan idea of three days of darkness on Earth.

-Sensory deprivation tanks

-Circadian rhythms changing with absence of sunlight

-A story about a prisoner in Alcatraz, who was in solitary confinement and used to keep himself occupied by taking a button off his shirt, throwing it in the dark, only to find it and do it over again and again.

universecannon, nice analogy with the melatonin acting as "deep mind lubricant". Stored that gem away for future visitation!
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#5 Posted : 7/2/2014 8:09:50 AM

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you'd probably be better off taking l-tryptophan or 5-HTP, there's this funny thing that occurs in your biological chemistry called "feedback inhibition"...taking melatonin will inactivate serotonin production, and the interesting tryptamines before it. taking the precursors will cover the entire pathway, which is why I favor l-tryptophan.


I just had an hour-long sensory deprivation tank experience on Saturday...if I had to do it again, I'd drink passiflora tea with 500 mg l-tryptophan (but at least 2 hrs. prior...decarboxylation of l-trypt is the rate-determining step in the pathway, requires the most energy, so it takes a while, relative to the other metabolic steps)
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#6 Posted : 7/2/2014 3:35:03 PM
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benzyme wrote:
you'd probably be better off taking l-tryptophan or 5-HTP, there's this funny thing that occurs in your biological chemistry called "feedback inhibition"...taking melatonin will inactivate serotonin production, and the interesting tryptamines before it. taking the precursors will cover the entire pathway, which is why I favor l-tryptophan.


I just had an hour-long sensory deprivation tank experience on Saturday...if I had to do it again, I'd drink passiflora tea with 500 mg l-tryptophan (but at least 2 hrs. prior...decarboxylation of l-trypt is the rate-determining step in the pathway, requires the most energy, so it takes a while, relative to the other metabolic steps)


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