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HBWR - Refining a LSA Extraction to Reduce Nausea Options
 
funkyhunky
#1 Posted : 6/30/2014 7:43:49 AM

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An annoying neighbor that lives down the street wrote this fictional story.

1st Time - 3 HBWR: Empty stomach, no nausea, stoned feeling

2nd Time - 5 HBWR: Slight indication of nasea, stoned feeling, euphoric body load.

3rd Time - 7 HBWR: Extracted into everclear over the course of 24 hours with cinnamon and peppermint essential oil added. Intense nausea, vomiting forcibly induced ~ 1.5 hours. Afterwards, psychedelic headspace, pleasurable sedative body load, strong euphoria. Very mild breathing of textured walls when focusing, enhanced color. The neighbor theorizes the cinnamon essential oil and everclear intensified the nausea.

4th Time (yesterday) - 8 HBWR: Seeds ground and placed in shot glass, covered with 2 cm of olive oil. After 1 hour, oil discarded and replaced with fresh oil. After another hour oil poured off and tap water added to brim of shot glass, and a few pieces of sliced garlic added, this was then put in the refrigerator for 0.5 hours. Water was poured off from ground seeds and ingested on full stomach with a small dose of cannabis tincture. Cannabis tincture was felt for ~2 hours after which the HBWR extract overpowered and turned the experience markedly psychedelic. Colors were enhanced, great headspace and once again a pleasurable sedative body load was experienced. Mild, bearable nausea was noticed for ~3hrs after kicking in.

Unlike the 3rd time, walls did not breathe. The neighbor theorizes less actives were consumed despite the dose increase due to decreased soaking time, possible absorption of actives into the nonpolar layer, and the use of tap instead of distilled water. The neighbor expects to have his 5th time this weekend, where dose will be increased to 10 HBWR seeds, and defat/extraction pull times will be increased to 24 hours each.

 

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kindwill
#2 Posted : 6/30/2014 12:09:06 PM

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Hey funkyhunky,
That is the difference between an extraction tek and eating seeds as is Very happy
Can i interest you into using my tek?
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funkyhunky
#3 Posted : 7/1/2014 2:32:20 AM

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The bit about avoiding alkaloid uptake into oil by doing nonpolar washes on the CWE instead of the substrate is a good point.

A 1 day long extraction of 12 ground seeds in mildly acidic distilled water followed by pulls with oil will performed
 
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#4 Posted : 7/1/2014 2:38:13 AM

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As far as LSA extraction Teks go, we've got you covered: a now-departed user developed a really nice extraction using readily available ingredients.

Kash's Advanced LSA Extraction Tek
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._Advanced_LSA_Extraction

It's a beaut ^_^

Also: there's no need for that "my annoying neighbor may have done this and this," thing. This isn't Bluelight or Drugs-Forum. We don't SWIM here.
"There are many paths up the same mountain."

 
kindwill
#5 Posted : 7/1/2014 6:08:30 AM

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Man am i glad to hear that. Swiming is annoying as hell
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kindwill
#6 Posted : 7/1/2014 7:36:21 PM

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funkyhunky, please keep us posted,
me especially Very happy
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funkyhunky
#7 Posted : 7/3/2014 1:46:58 AM

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SWIM is too lazy to do a real extraction Cool
 
funkyhunky
#8 Posted : 7/7/2014 6:05:10 AM

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Swim extracted 10 hwbr and 3g mg in a small glass of water over 24 hrs in the fridge, and then with an equivalent amount of oil over 24 hrs. The concoction was consumed with little nausea, but with also little effects, very disappointing
 
kindwill
#9 Posted : 7/7/2014 8:34:04 AM

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Hi fh, how old were the seeds?
Were they really mg and HBWR or some relatives? did swim grind the seeds? Did swim ingest the pulp of the seed also?
Did swim throw the oil away and drank only the water? Did you ever have visuals and the likes with an LSA trip?
I was expecting more to be honest.
Have a better one!
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