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#1 Posted : 6/25/2014 11:19:58 PM

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It has been about three weeks since the last time SWIM vaped freebase DMT. Pueo is planning on tripping tonight. Is that too soon?
 

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#2 Posted : 6/25/2014 11:42:50 PM

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Some people vape multiple times daily, Personally I use once or twice a week or so. Lots will say its about "the calling" When you feel it calling, its time to vape
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#3 Posted : 6/26/2014 12:26:29 AM

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As yamma1 says there is no universal “correct” amount of time to wait between journeys.

In my experience regularity varies depending on what is happening in life. Sometimes it fits, sometimes it doesn’t. I had a honeymoon period when I first found spice and at that time I was working several times a week, at the moment it seems I journey every couple or three months.

You will find out sooner or later if you are working too often whatever, there will be signs.
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#4 Posted : 6/26/2014 2:08:32 AM

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Thank you for the insight d*l*b and Yamma 1 for the insight. May I say I like how you call it "working". Think i will put that in my bag Smile
 
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#7 Posted : 6/26/2014 4:03:00 AM

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What does too soon mean that one of us could give you the correct answer? Too soon in our opinion? Too soon in my opinion would be when it doesn't feel right.

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It's entirely subjective. Personally, the rule of thumb I have for any psychedelic is "Is there a purpose behind it?"

I also wouldn't want to taint the experience by doing it too much. In my opinion, you can definitely have too much of a good thing. But that's just me, just go with the flow.

Three weeks for DMT does seem like a good window. The most I've done is twice in one day, and that followed one the day before. There was also some LSD. It was a good time Thumbs up
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#9 Posted : 6/26/2014 11:35:37 AM
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Pueo wrote:
It has been about three weeks since the last time SWIM vaped freebase DMT. Pueo is planning on tripping tonight. Is that too soon?


Generally I have about 4 psychedelic experience a year. Some years only 1. Some year none at all. Some years I'll do it 6 or even 8 times. Most years I do it at least twice.
That's a rough estmate.


I HAVE tripped less than a month after my last trip. Usually these trips don't go very deep.
I guess this must be your tolerance still not having gone down completely yet.
I don't think it will be troublesome, but it's likely that tripping again only 3 weeks after having tripped will yield a weak, spiritually insignificant experience. Doing it now may be a waste of DMT(Or LSD or Mushrooms; goes for all Psychedelic compounds really)

Waiting another 3 weeks before tripping would yield a much deeper, more meaningfull experience.


Concerning DMT in particular:
I must say I've never had much tolerance with DMT. I can smoalk a couple drags from a DMT-joint, traverse hyperspace for 15 to 45 minutes, come back, tack some more drags from that same DMT joint and I would be flung back into hyperspace with exactly the same speed, into ever so awe-inspiing realms. No acute tolerance seems to occur. I could smoalk DMT all day: take 3 big tokes, travel hyperspace for 20-ish minutes and repeat non-stop and repeat that over and over with no considerable loss of briliance/effectiveness. No tolerance.


But after having smoalked enough and having obtained more information than I can "carry" I allways get warned not to bite off more than I can chew in terms of knowledge. I'll get hyperspanked. I know I have recently traversed hyperspace and got a whole lot of self knowledge/insight. I know I now need to "digest" that knowledge and learn to apply it to every day life, before I dove back into hyperspace to obtain yet more knowledge.
 
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#10 Posted : 6/26/2014 11:47:41 AM

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Where do these 3 weeks come from SKA?
There is no tolerance with DMT, and Acid and shrooms don't take that long.

There is no correlation between tolerance and spiritually insignificance.

I have taken shrooms 5 days in a row, Acid 3 days in a row and Aya 4 days in a row, there is a tolerance involved with the first 2, but if you dose enough you still have a experience which can be very intense and/or spiritual significant.

Problems arise if you take too much too often, without proper integration.




 
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#11 Posted : 6/26/2014 12:06:20 PM
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Ryusaki wrote:
Where do these 3 weeks come from SKA?
There is no tolerance with DMT, and Acid and shrooms don't take that long.

There is no correlation between tolerance and spiritually insignificance.

I have taken shrooms 5 days in a row, Acid 3 days in a row and Aya 4 days in a row, there is a tolerance involved with the first 2, but if you dose enough you still have a experience which can be very intense and/or spiritual significant.

Problems arise if you take too much too often, without proper integration.







Well I really do experience that increased tolerance. My psychedelic experiences are most fruitfull when I space them at least a month apart. However when smoalking DMT I do it in sessions where I'll have several succeeding trips(up to 5) without noticable loss of intensity/quality.

Also: I don't see why anyone would want to trip on acid(or shrooms) more than a day? I think 12 hours is more than enough Razz And I will want to sleep. 2 days or longer in a psychedelic state...does not appeal to me to be honoust. All the gold is in the first 6 hours of the experience. After that point my body & mind will get more and more tired from all the psychedelic termoil + it will start feeling naturally sleepy. If I were to trip beyond that point my awareness would be too low and I would be less and less capable of storing memories. Taking more acid or shrooms at that point would just be a waste of psychedelics IMO.

And allthough I can immerse myself into hyperspace up to 6 times per smoalking session,
after such a session I also take a break of at least a month. If I don't I'll come out of hyperspace more confused & troubled than I went in: The opposite of what it's supposed to do IMO. Those who have also been "hyperslapped" for overindulging DMT will know what I mean.

I may as well save those psychedelics for a worthwhile experience some months from my last trip.
 
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#12 Posted : 6/26/2014 1:26:38 PM

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Yeah it was more like a test to see what goes. I did slept in between the sessions. And all of it was with low to medium doses, except the Ayahuasca which stacks up in effect.

In general i wouldn't recommend what i did, (only with Aya), but i see no reason to be dogmatic. Wasting some psychedelic material might be better than suffer from fear/depression.

I use shrooms to fight depression, sometimes once is not enough.
Acid is something i can really work with (creatively) so i do it until i can't do it anymore.

Might be something to do with my obsessive personality and the fact that i don't get my hands on such tools that often, so when i do, i tend to go overboeard.

Some years ago i had a similar tolerance to shrooms/acid, but since i've dabbled with harmala alkaloids the tolerance is not there anymore.
 
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#13 Posted : 6/27/2014 12:26:31 AM

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Too soon is before you're done coming down from the last one. I've tried that and the experience was an indistinct smear, two trips happening at once. Not bad, just wasteful.

Usually I'll have the spice every 3-4 months. That's enough for integration, artistic expression, etc to happen. But last week I "worked" four times in one night, and they all went very smoothly together, four chapters in a psychedelic short story. But the calling was very strong that night. It'll probably be a few more months now.

"Integration" means, in a nutshell, that you've done something with your experience. Write about it, draw or paint about it, mountain bike about it. You'll keep recalling small things from the experience that will slot nicely into your day to day life. Trip again too soon and this stuff just gets paved over by the more recent trips.
 
 
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