There are unusual ways to experience DMT (NSFW)

And I thought watching Football on DMT was amusing

I can quite relate to the personal connection and profundity of watching porn or any piece lowbrow entertainment while on DMT, as i was once in the same situation while watching a clip of Phil Collins era Genesis while on LSD and ended up enjoying it. He gazed lovingly and sincerely into my eyes and i felt as if he had written the song specifically for me. Obviously when i came down i regained my senses but i will never forget that imagined connection that Phil and i had through the medium of LSD synergised with the cathode ray tube. It was fleetingly beautiful. But i guess it could go either way in these situations.

To the OP i am not averse to having a drink or two before vaping DMT but i don"t think i would do it while slaughtered. It would be even more confusing than it normally is for me.

I do think DMT in small blasts is a bit like hippy crack. I noticed with my own experiences that a small dose can feel immensely pleasurable in terms of body high and mood elevation (I note at least an hour or so of euphoria after any dose which is not too dissimilar to cocaine but without the edginess). In terms of a high, small doses of DMT give me an immense rush, and basically drop me into cartoon land for about 5 minutes, which can be incredibly beautiful.

I've also found that even these small doses has a large impact on my general outlook regardless. After doing .30mg of DMT about a month ago, followed by a drinking binge which left me feeling negative, the DMT experience helped me understand and support the idea that maybe my time as a drinker is coming to an end. I'm happy to report I'm now 23 days into my first month dry, and a large part of that is down to these smaller DMT experiences.

good skills, i lived with an alcoholic for many years and it aint fun to be or to witness, if i ever thought i was close to becoming one i would make very quick steps to destroy the inclination.

I hope you keep this up

People are inclined to do whatever they feel like with any given substance, really, whether it be alcohol, DMT, coffee, etc.

I tend to feel along the lines of Nick Sand on the issue on 'use of DMT': his "Moving into The Scared World of DMT" and "Wee Bit more About DMT". Both highly recommended reads.

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Thanks, 3rdI. I wouldn't say I got into full blown alcoholism, and it's been a gradual step down. I used to drink heavily and regularly, then my trips with mescaline and LSD (with support from my lovely girlfriend), turned that into heavily but infrequently. Because of the nature of my job, I do a lot of traveling, and when I travel, I drink.

What was the trigger was doing back to back conferences in London last month, where I basically got smashed for five days straight. As I was leaving the city, I basically had a mini-breakdown brought on by no sleep and a near-week long hangover kicking in. After that, I felt I needed to take action. The DMT trip prior to the conferences, plus some lucy at the start of the month hammered this home and gave me the confidence to run with the idea of no booze.

I haven't ruled out drinking entirely - weddings etc will mean I crack out the booze - but drinking without purpose has been ruled out

I didnt mean to imply you were an alcholic mate, sorry if there was any offence, i just meant its a slippery slope.


i think this attitude will serve you well

None taken Just felt it was worth clarifying so you knew I wasn't having whiskey with my corn flakes! Thanks for the support - I intend to keep it up

Just read Nick Sands Moving into the sacred world of DMT

Thanks,

great recommendation.

That is *classic* psychotic behavior.
A very common delusion in those with paranoid or disorganized psychotic disorders is a belief that people on television or movies are somehow communicating with them directly, or that they are connected in some deep, emotional way.

The fact that the poster claims to have fallen in love with the actress and maintained this emotional connection after the experience ended is...concerning.

The same argument could be used to describe someone as having a psychotic disorder if, once their psychedelic experience has ended, they continue to have an emotional connection to shared consciousness, a continued feeling that love is the meaning of everything, a direct communication with their environment etc etc. I guess some psychotic disorders are more beneficial than others.

I would be more concerned if the poster in that thread had fallen in love and maintained an emotional connection to the actress without having taken drugs.

The difference is the parties involved. On a neurological level, you're probably right. My religious experience of ego death on magic mushrooms probably isn't all that different from someone who watches the news on acid and 'realizes' that Barrack Obama is a lizard man in disguise.

The problem is, my feelings of universal oneness and connection don't really have any ramifications for anyone other than myself. For our hypothetical prophet of the lizard people (or the porn dude), there's someone who might be very badly hurt if those psychotic delusions were acted upon.

The worst I might do feeling full of universal love is become a Hari Krishna and preach at people while wearing dreadlocks and forgetting to bathe. The worst porn guy might do is stalk, harass, discomfort or even assault the performer in the video.

I don't find it concerning at all.
Through the act of a series of coincidences he was able to watch this intimiate sexual act, and noticed how priviledged he was to be able to experience such beauty. The bond between him and the actress stands as a symbol for that, and the communication that happened between the two.

Now that he has come down, he still associates her face with this tremendous feeling of love. It is just anchoring. I've got a song, each time i listen to it i almost cry because i heard it on dmt. Would you say im sick in the head too ?

I think the spice gods are cool with the idea of "Amusement"

Nothing we do in relation to that world is not amusing...
and perhaps we ourselves exist for the purpose of amusement ? (of the gods?)

I think watching TV while spicey, is definitely weird, as in you see a different show and potentially a bad thing, perhaps even the Repitlians that David Icke rabbits on about - depending on what your watching. It can seem like there is a whole other layer of meanings / images / messages . I'd agree with Nathanial.Dread - that it's sounding remarkably similar to a particular symptom of psychosis - yet I did not get the sense that the 2nd level messages were just for me, they were for all the audience.

With TV I have experienced a time distortion effect a few times, almost where you could reach forward into time and interact with the show, directing the action in particular ways. This seemed like a personal 1:1 effect.


Thinking that gods like the ancient Egyptian drew may possibly have some kind of independent existence - even if only within our own psych - is also highly psychotic, until you've traveled far enough.

I mean, by standard, medical definitions, almost everyone here probably qualifies as 'sick in the head.' Depends really on how you're defining 'sickness.'

Equating psychedelic states with psychotic ones is so 45 years ago

Personally, I think going on the advice of what alcohol told you, leads me to believe that you value the advice. I don't believe alcohol ever has anything worthwhile to say or advise.

To each their own.......just my opinion......and you know what they say about opinions

Belly up to the bar boys!!

A Drink or to is fine and low/medium dose DMTV can be fun.
It has not always to be a breakthrough. I love both, low dose and once or twice a
year, unbelievable deep and sometimes very hard journeys.
I was the Godhead; I saw how reality works; the beginning and the end, all at once.
I don't have to repeat those experiences ad infinitum!
So in my opinion it's allowed to have fun with dmt.....

There is a link to link elsewhere (in the thread Does DMT make you more intelligent) about a study by Satoshi Kanazawa focussing on the likelihood that people who decide to take illicit drugs are more intelligent.

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I think that the Op should feel less bad a bout drinking and taking DMT. Surely, if he has done both at the same, it makes him doubly intelligent (but maybe watching the world cup on tv cancelled some of this out).