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chiggels
#1 Posted : 6/24/2014 12:57:43 AM

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I was wondering about some nontraditional psychedelic salts a while back.
More specifically:

DMT carbonate
DMT sulfate
DMT hydrobromide
&
Mescaline phosphate
Mescaline hydrobromide(all I could find was this: Acta Cryst. (1973). B29, 1543-1546 [ doi:10.1107/S0567740873004917 ])

Does anyone know anything about these salts- dosage, physical/chemical properties, synthesis, stability, etc.?
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kerelsk
#2 Posted : 6/24/2014 2:16:53 AM

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I think I read that there is a special bond between DMT and fumaric acid that happens to work exceptionally well.

I've heard about ergolines, the tartrate salt protects the two positions in the structure that could otherwise oxidize.

Taken from the wiki:
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DMT fumarate is more water soluble, more stable, has a longer shelf life, is much easier to crystallize, has a higher melting point, is less waxy, and easier to form into a powder than freebase DMT.
 
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#3 Posted : 6/24/2014 3:05:21 AM

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Totally forgot about tartrate salts.
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