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Is it possible for me to get DMT out of petroleum ether by bubbling anhydrous HCl through it and filtering? All of my posts are Pinky and The Brain fan fiction.
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Its an interesting question, I would have thought it needs water as a medium for the reaction to occur in but that may not be the case.
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Well, apparently, you can salt mescaline out of naptha, so the real question would be wether you could filter off the hydrochloride salt. Unfortunately there is very little information about the properties of DMT HCl on the net. Does anyone know if it is crystalline? All of my posts are Pinky and The Brain fan fiction.
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Homo discens
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IIRC, I have read somewhere on the forum that DMT HCl does not like to crystallize.
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No according to infindibulum it is hygroscopic.
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If I am using anhydrous solvent and anhydrous HCl, why does hygroscopicity matter. As long as I keep things dry until it's been filtered I should be fine. Right? All of my posts are Pinky and The Brain fan fiction.
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Unless you are able to keep it in a vacuum then no because as soon as it gets exposed to the air it will suck up the moisture.
Can you get fumaric acid? Much easier to salt out with FASW and evap off the water.
Can be done in a cheap rice cooker overnight on the warm setting.
Even better would be to calculate how much fumaric you would need so as to reduce the excess.
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I could do it in a gloove box under anhydrous conditions. I just wanna know if it is possible. It's probably not the most practical extraction. This is more about curiosity rather than efficiency or ease of production. All of my posts are Pinky and The Brain fan fiction.
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chiggels wrote: This is more about curiosity rather than efficiency or ease of production. I must say that you have been posing some of the most interesting questions I have ever seen on here; keep on pioneering good sir! 
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chiggels wrote:I could do it in a gloove box under anhydrous conditions. I just wanna know if it is possible. It's probably not the most practical extraction. This is more about curiosity rather than efficiency or ease of production. If you have access to the glove box, I'd suggest you get on with it and find out for the rest of us. “There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." ― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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chiggels wrote:If I am using anhydrous solvent and anhydrous HCl, why does hygroscopicity matter. As long as I keep things dry until it's been filtered I should be fine. Right? unless you plan to store the hcl salts in a Schlenck flask that's been evacuated, the salts will absorb moisture from the air, regardless of how anhydrous the reagents are. the technique is feasible, but some salts are just more hygroscopic than others. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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Thanks for the info. I'll add this to my DMT files as "possible, but not practical". SWIM is a big believer in growing your own medicine. So as soon as his mimosas get big enough he will try it out and do a proper work up. All of my posts are Pinky and The Brain fan fiction.
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