Need to get others opinions on this as now feel guilty and disrespectful to spice.

I had had a few beers watching the world cup,

Now, I would never normally smoke DMT after alcohol as it has never been a pleasant experience, But, the alcohol told me it would be a good idea, hmmm

I loaded up the VG with just 20 mg of my mullien leaf ( 1:1 ratio ) so about 10 mg of spice.

I muted the tv. but left the football on.

I took the hit in one hit. held it for about 30 seconds. Now, I have never seen something so funny in my life. The TV with football on became an amazing thing to see. was as if the 22 players became 122 players on the pitch. at one point I thought someone had taken over BBC1 and was broadcasting their own version of the match, was hilarious.

I did another hit again soon after for the amusement. was just as funny and interesting.

so, I sober up. Now I feel disrespectful to DMT. we all know what a decent dose can do.

and now I feel I used it for amusement rather than enlightenment.

Is this disrespectful to spice. To use it in small doses for my own amusement?

I don't think I will use DMT again like this, even after alcohol. although I must say, was a pretty funny experience.

Thanks

Peace

No need to feel like you disrespected DMT. It's all part of the learning process. I've only smoked once with some beers in me, just a handshake dose. The beer dropped the fear, but I didn't make a habit of it. I also smoked once while watching Revenge of the Sith, but that wasn't such a good time and I don't smoke with the tv on anymore (though a movie during a pharma come down can be quite nice).

As long as you don't make a habit of casual use (like one story I read about someone doing it in their car, COME ON!), or in the middle of houseparties, or business meetings, you'll be fine.

This comes up every now and again on The Nexus, and people seem to come down on different sides of the issue. Is it okay to use psychedelics for 'fun?'

Personally, I say yes and you have absolutely nothing to feel guilty about. Psychedelics can be powerful, revelatory, spiritual, eye-opening and all of those things that make us respect them so much. They can also be a huge amount of fun. I never laugh harder than I do when I'm tripping. Sometimes you get The Godhead, sometimes you get the giggles. Sometimes The Godhead makes you giggly.

Sometimes even the High Dose DMT trips can be nothing more than fun. Ever had one of those experiences where you go and have great sex with alien Gods/Godesses? Not hugely profound, but certainly enjoyable.

The molecule is just that: a molecule. It doesn't care how you use it, it does what it does regardless of where you are or why you're using it. That's one of the reasons set and setting are so important.

Blessings
~ND

Cheers guys, Makes sense really.

Low doses are plain and simple incredible healing and very calm reminder.(speaking for myself an my experiences so far)

I think enlightenment is amusing. Is amusement not a form of enlightenment? Hell, one can argue that guilt is enlightenment - after self criticism, many follow with learned enlightenment.

Too much light, and you might catch on fire! hehe, jk

I might be swimming against the current here, but i think its perfectly fine to use it that way from time to time (minus the alcohol ).
I am not that familiar with smoking/vaping, but i have drunk often and around 30% of the time i do it because i want to have fun (in addition to the healing).

Now let me explain that.
When i drink Ayahuasca and purge my guts out, i have fun (yeah it sounds masochistic).
When i tripp balls and connect with my higher self i have immense fun, even if its like a torturous odyssee through the valley of darkness.

I have watched hundreds of movies while under the influence of acid or shrooms and even some on Rue/DMT.
It works perfectly fine even with medium/higher doses.
The spirit ALWAYS comes through if it wants to contact me.
It facilitates the movies in a highly sophisticated synchronistic way. Or to be precice, whatever movie i watch, it has the message i need to hear at this time. Doesn't matter if its a mindless blockbuster or an terrible b-movie, the divine always comes through.

Agreed! Just allow yourself to move forward. Personally, I feel its okay to experiment here and there to get a greater feeling of how the compounds work. You still are exploring these realms whether it is full blown or not. Sometimes its okay to just relax and simmer down with a low dose psychoactive experience. It is alright to enjoy yourself and put aside the serious notions.

I feel the entheogenic molecules do care. Especially once you develop a relationship inwardly. Although, not everyone is like this and that is okay too.

Nothing to worry about! This is actually good you brought this up as it shows you really do care about your experiences.

Yes Thanks, I certainly do. as I'm sure most here do to.

If you asked everyone who does DMT, most would say its a "Tool" rather than a "Toy"

and I felt after that I "played" with it. Although as most said here, its not something to worry myself over.

When I go back to hyperspace, I'll see if I get told off.

Thanks all

I agree with Cognitive, I wouldn't sweat it.

I have found that small amounts of smoked spice can enhance my ability to play music or process situations or just have a little fun.... and fun is good. If you feel that you are seeking fun in excess, and it is impacting your life, or your loved ones life, it's ok to step back, too.

Depends on your attitude. Did you do it in a disrespectful way? There is nothing wrong with experimenting, but belittel something and it might come around to bite you eventually...

I think it was more the fact that I used after alcohol, which in the past has not been the best idea. Thinking about it, being disrespectful to the spice at the time didn't happen, was after when I sobered up that I felt I had used it for amusement.

I probably won't use spice like this again, not because its not the thing to do or if its morally correct, more the fact I personally have an issue with this form of use.

I like that you have a consciousness for this, most people don't. But personaly, i wouldn't be so hard on myself. Why not ask them about it, the next time you communicate with them?

DMT seems to dislike alcohol. Its a weird thing.

Yes I surely will have a telepathic word.

Yes, I agree by communicating on your next exploration to see what the entities feel about the use of ethanol comes to. Depressants and psychedelics don't seem hand in hand but may be of different outcome with personal communication.

I get leery when people anthropomorphize DMT (or any drug for that matter). The OP suggests that the low dose of DMT and anxiolytic effect of the alcohol synergized nicely.

I have met at least one person who would do one shot of liquid courage before embarking on a DMT voyage, and he was one of the most responsible, well-integrated individuals I've ever met.

You should. Most of us are nuts!

Should I phrase it more proper-like?

It is under my extremely critical analysis that I have observed multiple individuals who have reported that the "message" they received while on DMT was that alcohol was not a smart choice for their lives. It can be perceived that the individuals, themselves, do indeed know that large amounts of alcohol consumption can be toxic to the body, however had continued on the cycle in their normal day lives. Upon reflection and introspection, especially on a psychedelic compound, some individuals assess and address personal issues. In many cases, most of us have a preconceived idea that alcohol is not great for the body, but that is thrust forward in your face on this particular compound, in multiple cases. However, not the case for everyone.

A ton of ayahuasca shamans are actually also alcohol drinkers. I read somewhere (i think it was Rätsch), that a small dose of alcohol can bring back a fading ayahuasca trip. But i also don't like the idea of mixing in alcohol, but that's because i somewhat dislike alcohol.

People just love to create rules and set up boundaries. It's called "Culture". Nothing wrong with it, except that it is not the truth

to be honest i think you can do what ever you want with DMT as long as your not gonna hurt anyoneor yourself.

you wanna smoke it on a mountain top then thats fine, you wanna smoalk it watching the world cup then thats also fine. I think ones man spiritual tool is another mans play thing.

You wanna have a little drink before then fine, the way i think about it is that if the entire experience is internal and self generated then its only you who is bothered about the booze. If this stuff conects you to some kind of external interdimentional funfair then these highly advanced being are not going to care if you had a drink or watched the football while partaking.

with DMT you must always be prepared to be kicked in the nuts at any time because sometimes the Magic goes haywire, it can go haywire while mediating on a cloud and it can go haywire sat in your house watching TV.

do what makes you happy