Hello Nexians,
I think I just had my first experience with 5-MeO-DMT but I'm not 100% certain. I packed a small amount of the "Wonder Spice" in my blast pen (Basically a double bubble oil vape) which works great for vaping Deems. Anyways, packed a little bit of this "Wonder Spice" I would say around 10-15mg and let it rip. I almost cleared the whole thing and held on for around 20 seconds. The usual start to a blast off which the intense warm body high that starts sucking me in although this was a small amount. The visuals were pretty intense for a small amount but the thing that really caught me off guard was the very intense sweating. Also to note my eyes were like rolling around in circle (like your rolling) kind of. This went on for about 10-15 minutes. I did some research on how to tell the difference. Checked Erowid and most people state that they don't really get intense visuals from 5-MeO but sweat is def part of it as well as nausea which I somewhat felt towards the end. None of these effects have happened with normal spice especially sweating and the eyes rolling around. Can anyone help verify this for me. The "Wonder Spice" is a white/yellowish substance that when vapes of course smells like mothballs. Any help would be much appreciated

Thanks Space Cadets

It's honestly different to say. Your description is ambiguous, so it does make it hard to discern. You haven't listed anything that is much of a hallmark feature for 5-MeO that can't be present in N,N or vice-versa. 5-MeO is not particularly visual for me. There can be and have been visuals involved, and there is certainly a good amount of open eyed distortion, but the visuals certainly aren't the main event. The nausea, the sweating...it can easily happen with both, though 5-MeO does seem much more likely to invoke nausea.

It would be the bodily sensations that would be the biggest give away. 5-MeO really seems to play more on the sense of touch than anything else IME. The "intense warm body high" sucking you in does seem to potentially qualify. Could've been 5-MeO, but it's really hard to tell just based on some words. 10-15mg is a lot to smoke no matter what fashion I should mention. I've been overwhelmed by 4mg smoked out of a regular ole pipe. Be careful with your dosage. If you can't get intense effects in the 5-10mg range, it might not be 5-MeO.

what I understand from others with lots of experience with both is that 5-MeO is less visual but more visionary, and feel more "full"...and 15mg of 5MeO does not sound like a small dose.

I haven't had a lot of experience with 5-MeO, but some of the more prominent visual occasions I can recall include my first time where I saw the godhead patterns I see on DMT, but they were arrayed differently. It wasn't about creating any kind of semantic or representative content in the slightest, so much as creating this mega holographic patchwork quilt of the upper eschelon geometries that I associate with the godhead which was accompanied by the same divine-feeling euphoria that the godhead delivers as well. Other times the visuals are reminiscent of the disorienting states I've been in immediately following an ayahuasca purge with the way my eyes look when they're open.

Thank you for the replies back guys! Yeah I knew that there was no way to really tell by description I just thought I might try or see others experiences with 5-MeO (Even though everyone is different). I'm pretty experienced with N,N-DMT and have never had such effects from vaping it such as the sweating and nausea; it's usually pure bliss. Well for N,N-DMT a low dose is around 10-20mg, which is what i usually test with when I get a new batch just to get a little teaser. It might not be 5-MeO then. I looked at the dose for 5-MeO and 10-15 is considered pretty high. Many reports/experiences say that if you did 15-20mg of 5-MeO I would probably be white-out gonzo. Maybe I just had a weird reaction to it this time. I will have to experience more with the batch to get a better knowledge of what it is exactly. But anyways, thanks again guys! Much appreciated!

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How come that you don't know if you have 5-MeO-DMT or not? Where did you extract it from?


Kind regards,

The Traveler

I didn't extract this batch since I'm on contract for my job and have no way of doing so in a hotel room. He "told" me it was DMT and I had a little teaser of it just to check like I usually do when I extract or get any. I had some effects I never had before with spice which I thought was odd. I did some research and thought maybe it was 5-MeO due to the effects. I just tried a higher dose about an hour ago. Weighed out 50mg and packed into my blaster. Hit it about 3 times for about 20 seconds per hold and I completely broke through to an amazing experience. As I was coming back I got those same odd feelings again with the eyes rolling around. At that dose I'm positive it's DMT, I'm just not sure why I'm getting such odd symptoms. That's all

Let me get this straight: you thought there might be a chance that what you had was 5-MeO-DMT, and you then proceeded to smoke 50mg of the substance in question?

I hope you understand why I find this quite concerning...

Did you happen to read our attitude page? This since it contains very clear rules and you broke about the most important one:

No discussion on selling, buying, sourcing, acquiring, pricing, trading, mentioning pending deliveries or smuggling of drugs

Please read that rule, and also the links it contains, well.


Kind regards,

The Traveler