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Tyler_Trismegistus
#1 Posted : 6/12/2014 1:18:25 PM

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So I'm at the tail end of my first vinegar/lime extraction and had a bunch of oily DMT that wouldn't solidify. I decided to make some changa with it and dissolved it in some hot solvent along with some Syrian rue 10x and evaporated it onto some lemon balm and caapi vine. The problem is that it is EXTREMELY sticky and when I light it it turns into a hard almost tar substance that doesn't smoke well. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
 

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#2 Posted : 6/12/2014 1:54:53 PM

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Try curing it over the course of several weeks. I too had a very oily extract last extraction due to using too much heat during pulls, I managed to get my oily extract to solidify to a waxy substance before making changa from it though. I've been curing mine for a while and it's gone from smelling kind of sweaty to smelling like flowers! just put it in an air tight container and seal it which will allow moisture to even out and then take the lid off and let it dry. Repeat as needed. my changa is now crisp dry.

Hope this works out for you
 
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#3 Posted : 6/12/2014 2:17:05 PM

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Sounds like a good idea.... I'm excited to do my next extraction and use the beautiful white crystals in a nice 15:1 harmala heavy blend. I've seen on here that that type of ratio is great for deep exploration.
 
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#4 Posted : 6/12/2014 3:13:45 PM

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If you're aiming for deep exploration I personally recommend smoking changa ontop after having drank caapi / rue tea. I've been able to go very deep like this while still being able to navigate fairly well. I find dmt without harmalas very difficult to navigate and comprehend and often just goes right over my head. If you do give it a go, start out with low smoked doses and see what works for you.

Just read that you drink caapi daily anyway, do you time it so you smoke whilst under the effect of the caapi?
 
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#5 Posted : 6/12/2014 4:48:30 PM

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Oh for sure. My girl and I usually drink it at around 10 pm and smoke at 11 11 30 once we feel sort of harmala drunk. I got off all my pharmaceutical medications other than my suboxone in place of caapi tea and I have to say the results have been amazing
 
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#6 Posted : 6/12/2014 5:11:49 PM

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ah, sounds amazing. I've personally only tried it with rue but I've got a lot of caapi on the way and I'm really looking forward to it.

In your situation I'd aim for a better burning changa by not infusing it with any more harmalas seeing as you're already reaching much higher levels of inhibition through the caapi tea? but I guess it could be good to have on hand anyway for times where you don't drink it.

Good to hear that caapi's working for you, I've only had the pleasure of trying it in an ayahuasca brew once and it's psychedelic effects were much more noticible than rue's
 
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#7 Posted : 6/12/2014 5:16:02 PM

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I have yet to experience oral DMT but this next extraction I'm doing next week I plan on trying the pharma way dissolved in some OJ. Can you get to the intense levels of hyperspace orally?
 
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#8 Posted : 6/12/2014 5:55:58 PM

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I've seen a lot of people write about breakthrough experiences on ayahuasca / pharma and I too wonder if these experiences are full on breakthroughs into hyperspace? I feel like I'm a long way away from being prepared to undergo such a thing. Last time I tried pharma I purged super hard just as things started happening and then fell asleep but I had drank 4g rue tea instead of pure harmalas so that's probably why.

How much are you thinking of doing dosage wise?
 
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#9 Posted : 6/12/2014 7:15:13 PM

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Tyler_Trismegistus wrote:
Oh for sure. My girl and I usually drink it at around 10 pm and smoke at 11 11 30 once we feel sort of harmala drunk. I got off all my pharmaceutical medications other than my suboxone in place of caapi tea and I have to say the results have been amazing

Are you saying that you have been taking harmalas while still on suboxone? That sounds dangerous to me, but I'm certainly not a doctor/pharmacologist. Personally, I just decided to stay on the safe side and avoided taking harmalas when I was on suboxone.
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#10 Posted : 6/12/2014 10:26:33 PM

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#11 Posted : 6/13/2014 10:58:22 AM

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Entheogenerator yeah I've been using capo tea for a while now while on suboxone and haven't had any negative effects. I did a lot of research prior to make sure I'd be safe. And purges, I think that's where I messed up. The rue 10x was still acetate and I think that is what gave me the tar conaistency. I have a few grams of free base harmalas so I'll have to use those for my next try!
 
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#12 Posted : 6/13/2014 10:59:42 AM

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Also, how was your suboxone taper? I've tapered down to half my dose with no problem.... but I know its not going to be easy tapering to very low doses
 
 
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