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Earthwalker
#21 Posted : 6/10/2014 7:51:03 PM

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I don't understand why you're re-xing with heptane ! esp after them melting then reforming again ,


So am I rite in saying you're getting nice white crystals reforming after the melt , why in earth are you risking to lose 500mg when adding heptane Shocked
 

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#22 Posted : 6/10/2014 10:16:51 PM

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Yeah i thought one of the plusses of this tek is you get nice clean product straight from the pull?
Maybe see how they turn out first?
 
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#23 Posted : 6/10/2014 10:54:44 PM

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I personally don't re-X, but that's just me. It's important not to throw the melted crystals away. The DMT is still there, and if you let it evaporate, that's one way to get the DMT back. Another way would be simply to let it re-freeze overnight.
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#24 Posted : 6/11/2014 7:07:05 PM

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It's not a risk to recrystallize your DMT if you aren't an idiot like me, using the wrong chemical - Unfortunately I've used 1-Heptanol instead of N-Heptane. They have almost the same chemical structure... almost!

C7H16
C7H16O

Anyways as promised I've updated the original post with my progress. I've taken pictures of my first pull that I've let evaporate at room temperate and the second pull using the ventilator technique. Two very different products, at least visually but I'll try them out this weekend!

I'm also considering recrystallizing at least some of it for the sake of science.

The third and fourth pull are in the freezer, going to do the fifth and last pull this sunday to get the rest out of it.

I really like the tek and the simplicity of it is almost foolproof.
 
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#25 Posted : 6/11/2014 7:17:34 PM

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nice effort mate, those white crystals look great Big grin

almost 1% yield after just 2 pulls. not bad at all
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#26 Posted : 6/11/2014 7:53:20 PM

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yamma1 wrote:
nice effort mate, those white crystals look great Big grin

almost 1% yield after just 2 pulls. not bad at all


Thank you for your kind words yamma1, it wouldn't have been possible without the wonderful people of the Nexus.
 
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#27 Posted : 6/12/2014 10:27:00 AM

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TiHKAL wrote:
yamma1 wrote:
nice effort mate, those white crystals look great Big grin

almost 1% yield after just 2 pulls. not bad at all


Thank you for your kind words yamma1, it wouldn't have been possible without the wonderful people of the Nexus.


Yeah congradulations ,, well done and about time some one documented a TEK differant to the norm !! Thumbs up
 
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#28 Posted : 6/12/2014 11:45:08 AM

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Good result indeed, how much solvent will you have used once finished, how much will be re-usable?
 
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#29 Posted : 6/12/2014 12:40:56 PM

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DreaMTripper wrote:
Good result indeed, how much solvent will you have used once finished, how much will be re-usable?


So far with 4 pulls I have lost: 60ml from first pull, 40ml from second, 20 ml from third, 20ml from fourth. This equals to 140ml lost and I've been recycling the "leftovers" from the previous pull to do the next one. I don't really mind it because the lab grade Naphtha costs me 2€ for 250ml.
However I don't see my results being representative because other users had less solvent loss than me.
 
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#30 Posted : 6/13/2014 4:11:31 PM

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The pulls are still coming along great even after the fifth one.



Tomorrow I am going to do a recrystallization on my first pull (yellowish crystal) for the sake of the science.
 
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#31 Posted : 6/13/2014 5:40:09 PM

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Thumbs up lookin pretty awesome! No weights yet?
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#32 Posted : 6/13/2014 8:20:52 PM

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anrchy wrote:
Thumbs up lookin pretty awesome! No weights yet?


I weighed after the first two pulls but just did again for you anrchy!
I'm sitting at 1,48g right now and it seems like I can still pull more out of it.
 
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#33 Posted : 6/13/2014 10:51:33 PM

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That's pretty impressive mate, well done. Quite a loss of solvent but looks like its worth it.

I will use this tek for my next extraction.

I use SYSTEM 20 panel wipe only 20 quid for 5 litres. and I feel its better than lighter fluid naphtha.


Thanks for detailing your extraction here mate. been interesting. Big grin
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#34 Posted : 6/13/2014 11:53:11 PM

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TiHKAL wrote:
anrchy wrote:
Thumbs up lookin pretty awesome! No weights yet?


I weighed after the first two pulls but just did again for you anrchy!
I'm sitting at 1,48g right now and it seems like I can still pull more out of it.


So gram an a half on 4 pulls? Awesome. Keep pullin till she yields no mo
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#35 Posted : 6/14/2014 11:33:01 AM

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The loss of solvent isn't really a big deal. When you recycle the solvent, you'll end up getting some of it back anyway. In the end, you got practically 1.5% (I'm assuming you were using 100g?) so there's no need (and not saying that you are) to get petty over a little bit of fluid. Congrats on your success. Your future extractions should be much easier now that you know exactly what you're doing and how you should be doing it, though I'm sure you'll probably revise some things here or there as you go.
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#36 Posted : 6/14/2014 5:11:01 PM
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Congrats!

Lovely job. Smile
 
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#37 Posted : 7/6/2014 10:57:06 PM
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After being looking for "My Way to Extraction.." SWIM tested about each and every available TEK which is findable on the internet..some were ok, some with clear white chrystals, but low yielding, and other were larger yielding with a more yellow product..
he was experimenting with Salt TEK from Cyb etc. quite a lot, with good to bad results..
and then something happened, he never wishes any of you happening themsef..

As a mixing bowl, he had this "perfectly formed and sized 3liter Vodka-Bottle, with a very thin long straight neck..

And one day, he was just done with basing his liquid to the black oily 2.5l soup, when the dogs came in from a rainy day, and this bottle dropped from the Cupboard in his living room....

and yes!!! it broke... This was the biggest mess, he ever had to clean up in his entire life... couch table, furniture, Laminat,, black.. all over...

no choice.. had all to be new bought then.. not cleanable.. and from all that Lye in ther, his hands lokked terrible afterwards.., so he thought about a more compact, "cleaner" and maybe even healthier way..? and found the Q21-TEK...

He uses no other anymore... Thats been the most high-yielding, white chrystals Pulls he ever saw..

100gr Bark tun out now for him as about 2-gr+ of nice pure chrystals, which start turning slightly yellow, after Pull 4..
But dont do any bigger ones.. he notice the larger the amount of Bark was, the less the yield.. and thats due to that solvent loss.. used to pull with Zippo earlier, and was always sufficient, but for this TEK after the few adjustments he made, he put in 125 ml for Pull 1 and after rinsing out the Naphta only 50ml came out there again..so, a cheaper alternative needed.. and foun ColeManS Fuel. resulting in cheaper price of product and lifting the yield up evenb more..
Also as this is no Liquid, the mass needs time to get "based" throuwly...which takes time...
so he starts his first 2 pulls after a long and warm Acid Soak, and not less than 6 hr basing time with stirring every now and then to make clumps smaller..so next day he starts doing 3 small cucumber-Glasses (when having long soaks and pulling time. important to have a covwered Glass to srew, and nothing evaporates) with 100gr each and their Pull 1 and 2.
then he does this for another 100gr Glas, 2 long and warm Pulls with always "Fresh ColeMAn" for Pulling... after that he does a thir glas with 100gr.. same 2 long warm soaked Pulls.
in the meanwhile mixing the other bowls from time to time to make clumping smaller and let get throughly based faster... then Pull 3 on each glas.. the same.. just wait for the base to do its job completely.. and what i like is the only toxic chemical used in this TEK is the Pulling Solvent, as the Base here is Calciumhydroxid, which is nothing else then "eggshells, etc.."completyly natural..
keep stirring everry day a bit throuhg the more drying out mass, and after about a week, or more do Pull 4 with still Solvent"Loss.."
SWIM usually has already yiwlded about 2gr clean chrystals from 4 Pulls splitted over a 2week period..
then just take a larger bowl to fit the content of the 3 previous used glasses..combined, mixed, and probably needs little watering again.. in this time period now, you can be sure the Base has done its job.. if regulrly mixed and crushed crumps..
So SWIN had 300 gr Bark from 3 glasses and endeed already up with about 2gr clean Freebase from each glas, so about 6 gr,, very nice..
and now the 300gr combined come into rowl,,.. it contains lots of Freebase DMT which was trapped in the Naphta but not evaporated with it.. do this Pull on 300 gr, maybe twice, or waiting another week, and do another pull.. it keeps yielding.. although not as nice white as in beginning...:-)

This is also the most "forgiving" TEKS SWIM tried when forgetting about the time.and temperature.. sometimes he has his Pulls in there for about a day, sitting in a Slow-Cooker keeping warm. many other TEKS would now begin to start acting strange or whatever.. THIS one not..maybe another dash of Colemans in, wait another hour and pull again.. you will be surprised how much was lossened but not washed out yet..

and its no big deal having that running.. it takes 5 minutes a day, which swim found to be worth the results..and Pulling has become so fairly fast and easy now..
SWIM takes a Ladys Sock and put it over the open Glassand rescrews it.. for Pulling he just needs to open the Lid a bit and only the Naphta comes out.. and if something may fall though the mesh, its a small amount of "sand, easily taken out of evaporation dish without any residues..
Swim started this TEK first time with a good yield by followed to the Word..but playing around with Soaking times and temperatures, Acidyfing times and Basing times.. he was able to kick the magic mark of 3.2gr nice, no stixky chrystals frorm 1 100gr galss
SWIM Always wanted to take some Pics and do a Description on the things he changed, but never foud the time yet.. but will do , just as proof for this amazing clean and high yiwelding product.

Swim had collected all his "cakes from over the past experiments, and you should think they should be done at some point... give it another try wiuth some dried cakes mixed with little water again, and repulled.. youll end up with even more chrystals..just let it dry out once completely, and rewet again then...

SWIM can HIGHLY recommend this Ulrtra Fluffy Funfest and advices everybody to give it a try.. maybe tillthen SWIM will have his writeup finished...

Small, nearly undetectyable as just this small glass waiting to be pulled, nearly no smelly, and easy to do-TEK,

btw.. the 3.2gr yield once was from the same batch of bark used all the time, so it was definately not the bark different...





 
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#38 Posted : 8/13/2014 7:23:25 PM
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Nice extraction, i always used this Tek myself and preferred it over using sodium hydroxide.
You've made me want to have another go for fun Smile

 
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#39 Posted : 6/1/2015 7:08:08 PM

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In the past I've tried most teks that are out there but I always come back to this one... It's magical! This extraction is brighter than any I've ever seen or done. My regards to Q21 and all the wonderful people on the Nexus for sharing the love because now it is my turn to share the love.


 
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