Hello fellow Nexians,

I am going to do a Q21 Fluffy White Extraction and let you be part of the process by keeping this thread updated as I am progressing.
We are starting at 22.00 GMT+1 time and each step will take approximately 8 hours.

I hope to provide a detailed insight in each step of the teq and if possible get some feedback by the more experienced members around here.

Our inventory is:

100g - MHRB
100g - Sarson's vinegar
100ml - distilled water (you can use tap water if you are sure that it has no harmful chemicals inside)
75g - Calcium Hydroxide
100ml - Naphtha / Wundbenzin
100ml - Heptane (Recrystallization)
1x plastic beaker - 1L for warm water bath
1x glass beaker - 600ml for the extraction
3x glass beaker - 100ml for the product
1x petri dish
several spoons / chopsticks / glass stir rod / pipettes
thermometer
electric warming plate
electric kettle
razorblade

Step #1: T+ 0h
- Added the MHRB bark to the 600ml beaker
- Slowly added 100ml vinegar to the beaker
- Stirred until the consistency was the one of a cookie dough
- Heated water to 40°, added 50ml stirred it, added another 50ml
- Thoroughly stirred it until the mix was just enough to flow from one side to the other when tilted
- Continuing periodically stirring for an hour
- Letting it rest

Step #2: T+ 5-6h
- Added 80 mg Calcium Hydroxide in 10mg steps
- Added ~10ml of 40° water to make mixing slightly easier
- Thoroughly stirring the mix until all of the Ca(OH)2 is absorbed
- Consistency is almost soufflé like
- Letting it rest

Step 3b: T+12h
- Decided to make the consistency slightly dryer by putting the mix into the oven at 90° for 30 minutes
- Letting it cool off to avoid boiling Naphtha

Step 4: T+13h
- Creating a water bath at 40° for the MHRB mix as well as one beaker filled with 100ml Naphtha / Wundbenzin.
- Putting the containers on a heating pad that is 40°.
- Gently adding the Naphtha to the mix stirring periodically for 10 minutes.
- Using a potato masher to compress the MHRB so the Naptha layer is more visible
- ATTENTION: Cleaning the edges of the container carefully so no MHRB leftover polutes the Naphtha when decanting.
- Letting the solution rest for 5 minutes so the Naphtha can seperate completely from the MHRB mix.
- Gently pouring off the Naphtha into the precipation container (another beaker), covering it with aluminium foil and putting it into the freezer for 12 hours or until I'll see crystals crashing out.
- Sidenote: Naptha immediately clouds when you blow on it but it seems like we've lost ~60% solvent on our first pull.

Step #5 T+30h:
- IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO THE FOLLOWING STEP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE
- Taking the beaker out of the freezer
- Carefully decanting the Naptha out of the beaker into a seperate container for later reuse
- Putting the beaker upside down onto a petridish and putting it back in the freezer for one hour
- Putting the beaker upside down but at a 45° on a table and using a ventilator to stimulate air flow inside of the beaker. This step is to avoid melting of the product.
- After one hour use a razor to scrape out the DMT and put it in a container: modified salt shaker, zip baggie or similar.
- Give yourself a pat on the back.

ALTERNATIVE Step #6: Recrystallization

Adding the vinegar


Adding water


Adding lime


Consistency after stirring periodically for an hour


Consistency after 6 hours rest and 30 minutes in an oven at 90°


The "Pull" setup


First Pull


First Pull (room temperature evaporization)



Second Pull - The Fluffy White (Setup with Ventilator):



First Pull and Second Pull compared side by side (combined weight 0.953g):

You sound like you're very prepared, and it will pay off I'm sure. I love this tek.

I love this tek as well. Although I'm curious, you have quite a few tools that are much more efficient than the average kitchen chemist and yet your proposing to use tap water rather than filtered water.

If your not on a well you possibly have many chemicals in your tap water. If you are, community wells even sometimes have added chemicals iirc.

@ Global,
I am indeed prepared thanks to many users of the Nexus who helped me directly or indirectly with their experiences.

@ anrchy,
you are right and I have toyed with the idea of using destilled water. Most users here said that it won't make a difference so I decided to use tap water... Fingers crossed.

@ all
the bark went dark red almost brown during the Acidification. In other threads I've seen a bright red consistency. Is this unusual and should I be worried or is it nothing to be concerned about?

IME that is normal.

Tap water shouldn't make a difference I just prefer to make sure nothing else is in it. It's probably not an issue anyways.

Acidifying it for 9 hours is quite excessive. I do it for 20-40 min with fantastic results. The entire acidification-basification-solvent process takes me 3-4 hours, and then I let it freeze overnight. You're free to be as thorough as you'd like, but I thought I would point that out.

That I've heard but I've also read good reports on taking several hours for the Acidification step. Thought I'd give it time and be patient with my first extraction.

Anyhow I am unable to sleep tonight so I decided to do the Basification step after 5 hours. Because I was aiming for a very dry consistency I barely added any water at all and I'm pretty sure that I'll have blisters tomorrow from mixing the mush so hard.

Also is it normal that the mix smells so badly? It reminds me of dead fish or something similar. I'm trying to do the whole process with love as well as passion but the smell is pretty offputting!

Going to let the mix rest now for a few hours until I wake up to do my first (hopefully) succesful pull.

If it's too tough to mix, you can add tiny amounts of hot water to improve the consistency. If you feel you've overdone it and made it too moist and soupy which will make separating the solvent difficult, then you can add more calcium hydroxide. Perhaps you'll start liking the smell after you start associating it with its effects

I'll be very interested to see how this turns out !!

I've always wanted to try something differant to the normal A+B TEK !!

I like how you're publishing it aswell , good luck !!

And also how's this TEK work with ACRB ??

@Global: Of course you are right with adding water and lime but I wanted to get the consistency right from the beginning without toying too much so I just used as little water as possible. Turned out well!
The smell didn't bother me too much today, but yes you gotta love your stinking baby no matter what!

@Earthwalker: I'm also interested how it turns out, so far so good, fingers crossed! Thank you very much for the compliment. All of my knowledge about the extractions / DMT in general are from the Nexus and this is my way of saying thank you to the wonderful community.


Good morning fellow Nexumaniacs,
hope everybody is doing fine! I got a bit of sleep tonight and updated my original post with the "pull" step.
I was very satisfied with the consistency I had after 6 hours of rest but decided to put in into the oven for 30 minutes at 90° to get rid of the little moisture that I had.
I've also found that to avoid "MHRB soup" in my precipation container one needs to clean the glass where the Naphtha will touch it. This step is probably unnecessary but I thought I'd mention it.
Other than that the pull came out very clean and very saturated. Seems like I've lost ~60ml out of my 100ml but I don't mind it as long as the product will be shiny white.
Just put the beaker into the freezer for at least 12 hours with no peaking, then pour off the remaining Naphtha, turn the beaker upside down and let the remaining Naptha drip out before allowing the crystals form at room temperature.

Quick question: We are currently having 35° outside so it's probably not that smart to let the crystals form at room temperate? I'm afraid they'll melt into a goo.

EDIT: I peaked after 30 minutes while taking out my ice cream and already saw small crystals crashing out with the Naphtha being almost milky.

I'd like to no where the other 60ml went ? And also the naps looks very clean and is a lot clearer then I thought it woulda been for coming out of such a thick gloopy soup !!

Also I haven't read the oridganal TEK but do you stir the naps through the mix and how does it separate from the mix , or is it normal to lose that much naps ???

I can only assume, maybe another member can clarify but I'd say most of the Naphtha got absorbed by the dry mush and some of it evaporated.
You can read up on the original tek here
Q21 says that he's losing a bit of Naphtha but I lost slightly more than him which I don't mind though. During the "pulling" I stirred for 2 minutes, let it rest for 2 minutes, stirred 2 minutes again and so on for 10-15 minutes at which point I squeezed the MHRB mush together witht the potato masher and let it rest for another 5 minutes.

I like to pour the naptha off through a permanent coffee filter so it catches the MHRB which can simply be added back in with the rest. It makes pouring off a breeze. I like to filter it into an open bowl before putting it in the freezing vessel so that if any MHRB does slip in, it can easily be isolated.

The lost naphtha is in the MHRB mixture. The bark isnt as goopy as you would think, it can hold more moisture. With this tek the solvent stays fairly separated the entire time so theres no need to wait for separation. The reason for it being clear is the solvent doesnt pull a whole lot other than DMT, its just like any other tek except the naphtha doesn't actually mix in. What moisture is allowed in is taken up by naphtha and the rest just hovers outside.

When I did it I let the naphtha absorb DMT for 15min stirring a couple times during. Looking good TiHKAL! can't wait to see yuur white fluffiness!

I use Cyb's salt tek with fantastic results. This tek seems pretty good from what I have seen here. Is this likely to achieve better yield than the salt tek? the naphtha looks pretty clear after the pull. mine is always yellow in colour, not clear, and I always do a recrystalisation after.

or is it just down to preference?

I might point out to you TiHKAL that while the naptha may be clear this time, it is more likely to yellow with each successive pull if you choose to recycle the naptha. From what I understand, this is a result of pulling more fatty oils, but re-x'ing should take care of that.

I'll be posting pictures of the crystals very soon but they are coming along very well!



Unfortunately I can't compare but other people can probably help you with their experience.



We seem to be on the same page Global, this is exactly what I was going for!


I have freeze precipated my first pull for almost 18 hours, decanted it, put the beaker upside down on the petridish for 30 minutes and then put it outside to evaporate at room temperature. Right now it seems like my crystals are melting and I've read the FAQ on how to avoid it but my question is:
Should I let it ecaporate at room temperature and wait for the crystals to form or should I put it back in the freezer?
I'm not worried about my DMT disappearing but I want it in the right consistency to store until I'll do my recrystallization.

Edit @ noon 10.06: I guess I could do a recrystallization with the goo product but I'll add 10ml of Naphtha to it, put it back in the freezer for 24 hours then take it out, decant it and let it dry under a ventilator. Seems like this is the only way to avoid goo-ization of the product. Other suggestions are welcome.
Note to myself: Putting the precipation container in a tupperware box might be the superior way to freeze precipate because there won't be any chance of ice crystals in the Naphtha.

Another edit slightly later: When I was going to add the Naphtha to the "goo" and put it in the freezer I realized that there were solid "whitish" crystals building inside the beaker.
After thinking to myself I am going to let them grow until wednesdays to make a comparison with my second pull where I will use the ventilation technique I've been talking about in my previous edit.

Question time, there seems to be a fine layer of oil on the sides of the beaker where the DMT dripped down from. What could it be? Plant oil? DMT residue? Should I get it out and if so, what's the best method to do so?

nice thread on an interesting tek *pulls up a chair*

Ah yes melting crystals. How frustrating. It's a tricky process. Here's what I've found to be most effective for myself. I usually take the container out of the freezer, then I try and pour off the naptha as quickly as possible. I pour it through my permanent coffee filter so it catches most of the DMT that tries to go out with the naptha. I then instantly put it back in the freezer, covered to ensure that they don't melt. After a few minutes in the freezer, I transfer it to the fridge to warm up for 15-30 min. The reason for this is that if you let it sit at room temperature after being in the freezer so long, that you start to get water vapor condensing in the container. These water droplets can pull residual solvent onto the DMT, thus dissolving/melting them.

After taking it out of the fridge, instead of turning it upside down, I prop it up with some household items at like a 45 degree angle so that all of the residual naptha and water pools in one corner of the container (preferably the one that has the least DMT in it, but it doesn't matter too much). I let it sit at this angle for 1/2 hour to an hour and pour off the residual naptha. If the crystals look relatively dry, I then start scraping them up. I actually prefer not to scrape them when they're 100% dry because then they start to stick to the container way more, and it's difficult to scrape it up cleanly, so I prefer to do it when all the excess moisture of droplets is gone, but when the crystals still look a tad moist. This makes it easiest and cleanest to scrape them all, and then I let the crystals air dry once they've all been collected and removed from the freezing container.

The key to a lot of these steps is that you have to move fast. There's no dilly-dallying because DMT melts incredibly fast at room temperature. It's a bit tricky, but you'll get it down with a little practice. I remember being incredibly frustrated when I first started extracting. You get so far - you get all the way to the end only to see your product melt before your eyes...gah!

Thank you for your advice Global, I highly appreciate it! It is indeed very frustrating to see it happen, especially if everything went so smoothly and the glass is filled with the most wonderful snowflake crystals that I've ever seen. In the last hour I've been reading up a lot on the melting crystals and I've already decided on adding 10ml Naphtha to the goo product to redo the freeze precip step and do it the way you are saying except with using a ventilator. But then I noticed that the "goo" started to recrystallize by itself. BIG crystals seem to form and I've decided to let them grow until wednesday.

Currently I'm having my second pull in the freezer going through the freeze precip step. I'll pour off the Naphtha tonight to reuse it in my next pull and let it sit upside down in a petri dish until wednesday afternoon.
At that point I'll take it out, put it at a 45° degree and use a Ventilator to get rid of the Naphtha. That's the plan.
I hope that I'll be able to make a comparison on how both of these product turned out for you guys.
After drying them for an hour I'll scrape both beakers out and recrystallize them with Heptane.

Unfortunately my first recrystallization went bad because I've used too much Heptane from a user guide. It was 20ml for ~500mg of DMT and even after 3 days of freeze precip and room temperature evap I haven't been able to retrieve my product.
This time I'd use 10ml for ~500mg of DMT.

The recrystallisation will look as following:
-Adding 500mg DMT to one beaker
-Adding 10ml of Heptane to another beaker
-Creating a waterbath at 40°
-Putting the Heptane beaker in the waterbath until it's around 40°
-Using a pipette gently drip a few ml of Heptane every 30 seconds into the DMT beaker and gently swirling it while submerging it into the waterbath.
-When noticing the yellow goo seperating from the Heptane I'll stop adding Heptane
-Allow the yellow goo to settle for 10 minutes while keeping the beaker in the waterbath
-Gently sucking out the Heptane into a petri dish using the pipette
-Add a few more ml of Heptane to the yellow goo, let it rest and repeat the procedure
-Put the petri dish in a Tupperware container and put it in the freezer for 24 hours
-Pour off the Heptane
-Put the petridish in the fridge for 24 hours
-Allow the petridish to evaporate at room temperate

Have I missed anything?
I'll update the first post with the recrystallisation step for easier understanding but I'd rather wait for a confirmation that my technique is correct.