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blasteryui
#1 Posted : 6/8/2014 7:56:42 AM
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hey guys so i ended up scaling i believe 10-20mgs, i hit it, and i felt rushed with this feeling i've never felt before, but it only lasted like a minute, the closed eyed visuals weren't that intense, i was expecting at least 5 minutes. I packed another hit about 20 mins later, and same thing a bit weaker, but i had a second bowl ready so i hit that pretty much right after, had some ok closed eyed visuals but again didn' last longer then a minute. I tried two different ways, one with my portable vaporizer and the other with the ash, dmt, bong method. Should i attempt a breakthrough or continue upping my dose gradually by 5mgs or so at a time?


 

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#2 Posted : 6/8/2014 8:45:16 AM

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If youre confident youre not burning the spice then up it by 5mg sure.
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#3 Posted : 6/8/2014 9:15:27 AM

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Personally I think you should perfect your technique first. Sounds to me that you are either burning it or it is melting through. Get a better device.
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#4 Posted : 6/8/2014 11:08:48 AM

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Agreed, or just infuse it with some smokable herb (changa) and see what happens...
 
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#5 Posted : 6/8/2014 12:49:20 PM

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Aye, I would work on the technique first. IME, 10mg should be more than enough to produce vivid CEV's for most people, if vaporized properly. 20mg of properly vaporized spice is generally enough to produce almost full immersion in kaleidoscopic CEV's, for most people.
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blasteryui
#6 Posted : 6/8/2014 7:40:09 PM
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Hm, okay well I'll try again later tonight burning. You guys don't recommend trying to breakthrough yet? I tried this other method to where you use a 2l bottle, tin foil on the bottom and light from underneath. When I did that, the dmt immediately turned into oil.. does that mean I burned it too quick? The smoke was incredibly harsh also, really hurt my lungs, and the feelings were not as strong as when I first did the bong method. One more thing, I'm on an antidepressant. It's not an SSRI however, it's called Welbutrin. I've read not to take DMT while on antidepressants, but is this still the case with Welburin?
 
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#7 Posted : 6/8/2014 8:26:28 PM

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When melted dmt turns into a liquid. I personally suggest staying away from plastic and foil. As far as breaking through its not that I don't recommend it, I just feel it isn't something you should ultimately strive for. In my experience learning to breakthrough rather than forcing one with larger dose sizes is more beneficial. Although this can possibly take a long time depending on the person.

If vapor is harsh you are burning it. I do not have the qualifications to give you medical advice as far as dmt use along side welbutrin. It looks as though it is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, so for sure do not ingest ANY MAOI. It is also possible your medication could effect the dose needed but I do not know.
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blasteryui
#8 Posted : 6/9/2014 4:20:14 AM
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well I got 50/50 changa also, what would the dosing be for that, i've got about 500mg
 
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#9 Posted : 6/9/2014 5:09:19 AM

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anrchy wrote:
It looks as though it is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, so for sure do not ingest ANY MAOI.

blasteryui wrote:
well I got 50/50 changa also, what would the dosing be for that, i've got about 500mg

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#10 Posted : 6/9/2014 11:11:58 AM

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blasteryui please take notice of the advice given to you in the 2 threads welbutrin and harmala alkaloids are potentially very harmful when taken together.
It is a known harmful interaction.

If you want a longer experience snort some freebase mixed with baking soda or finely ground fumarate and vape some enhanced NON HARMALA leaf or freebase on the peak.
 
 
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