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D1
#1 Posted : 6/1/2014 9:54:24 AM
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Hello,

I'm D. I'm 21 and from North West England. One of the friendliest and most honest people you may ever talk to. I'm intellectual, methodical, approachable and kind hearted. I love adventuring, outdoor pursuits, film & media, technology, cooking, sciencem nature & learning about evolution. I have a lovely family and job. I always like trying new things and exploring which is why I have made the decision to join DMT Nexus in order to learn more about and share my experiences with this interesting drug.

I originally came fascinated in the spirit molecule after hearing a work colleague talking about it. I went home that night and typed DMT into Google and spent some time reading about the substance. Quite interesting... but I shelved the idea until around 2 months ago when I watched DMT: The Spirit Molecule, following this, I picked up the book by Rick Strassman and read through it, and I'm currently around 2 thirds of the way through Food of the Gods by Terence McKenna.

Earlier this week I took the plunge and procured DMT, this would be my first psychedelic drug, and not my last, previously I had only used cannabis and MDMA. I planned to try 2 smoking methods, a bottle with foil wrapped around the bottom (didn't work, I didn't quite make it right and vapours escaped), and a waterless bong (worked!), so, I will now go on to describe my first experience with DMT.

As soon as everything went quiet for the night, I got everything ready and headed downstairs with all of my smoking apparatus and my DMT. I lit a few candles around the room and dimmed the lights slightly. I loaded up 0.045MG of DMT into the bown of my bong, sandwiched between a little ash, and very slowly, I began to draw through the bong with an indirect flame, after 10 seconds it had became thick with white vapours. I inhaled it all into my lung then laid back and waited.

I began to feel it fast, after around 10 seconds I exhaled. I could really feel myself going, I was aware of where I was but couldn't move. My throat felt very weird, my breathing felt very light and it felt as if there was something obstruction my airway, I felt no aches or pains, it was as if my body just did not exist and I could only see, hear and think. I heard the famous 'buzzing noise' however I think it was more of a high pitched squeal starting and stopping very fast. I remember thinking to myself "Oh no, I don't like this one bit...", I immediately dismissed this thought and waited. Around one minute later any fear or bad sensations completely dissipated and I was in a beautiful trance like state.

The ceiling was warping and twisting a lot, as was the chandelier. The room had turned into a red colour - a deep red glow, it was very pretty. I was waving my arms above my head and it was as if they were lagging behind heavily, trailing a lot. The whole world had slowed down. I was aware of where I was, bit it did not feel like it.

I closed my eyes and seen blue and green patterns, a large series of triangles inside each other pointing inwards from the edge of my vision to the centre, they were twisting and turning. I opened my eyes and closed them again and I seen some new patterns.

I carried on staring at the room as it warped and closed in. I felt myself coming down a bit then managed to sit up (my body felt as if it was being sucked down to the sofa) and tried to hit the bong. I got some more vapours (I think I only managed to get about 0.035g originally), laid back again and the effects became slightly stronger again, I heard the buzzing sound again and the visuals became stronger.

When I came around properly I was feeling very very happy and relaxed. I looked in the mirror and my pupils were huge.

DMT wasn't scary like I expected, the effects I got were beautiful and I can't wait until my next try, which will be with a friend this week.

I will be trying more next time (0.5-0.6) and in multiple hits as per advice on another forum.

Your advice and input is greatly appreciated!
 

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Japansage
#2 Posted : 6/1/2014 10:59:26 AM

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Hey man, Im on a similar journey as you - newly into the spice. Went once last week and going again today. Im also using a dry bong with ash in the sandwich method, only im compensating for my technique being poor by using a higher dosage. (using 70mg as i figured if i only manage to pull 75% of that into my lungs then its better than 75% of 50mg). I think I managed to travel further than your experience, and it was because I drew from the bong 3 times. After the 2nd its quite tricky as you're feeling the onset, but I had a sitter with me who handed me the bong for toke 3 and took it away again. Good luck on your next trip!
 
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#3 Posted : 6/1/2014 12:07:07 PM
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Japansage wrote:
Hey man, Im on a similar journey as you - newly into the spice. Went once last week and going again today. Im also using a dry bong with ash in the sandwich method, only im compensating for my technique being poor by using a higher dosage. (using 70mg as i figured if i only manage to pull 75% of that into my lungs then its better than 75% of 50mg). I think I managed to travel further than your experience, and it was because I drew from the bong 3 times. After the 2nd its quite tricky as you're feeling the onset, but I had a sitter with me who handed me the bong for toke 3 and took it away again. Good luck on your next trip!


What was your experience like? Good luck with your next trip. I can't wait for mine.
 
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#4 Posted : 6/1/2014 12:16:02 PM

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Get some water in those bongs, infuse that magic into some mullein and get your dose down in 1, we need to dispel this 3 hit idea.
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#5 Posted : 6/1/2014 12:37:49 PM

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D1 wrote:

What was your experience like? Good luck with your next trip. I can't wait for mine.


I wrote about it here if you want a read : https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=56085

3rdI wrote:
Get some water in those bongs, infuse that magic into some mullein and get your dose down in 1, we need to dispel this 3 hit idea.


You'll have to excuse my noob banter but Mullein? Is that making 'changa' you are referring to?
 
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#6 Posted : 6/1/2014 12:41:04 PM
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I do believe I could get 0.05g of pure spice down in one huge hit if I wanted. Does 2/3 hits really matter?
 
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#7 Posted : 6/1/2014 12:59:08 PM

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Japansage wrote:
You'll have to excuse my noob banter but Mullein? Is that making 'changa' you are referring to?

Its a herb that's used for infusion. changa will also have harmalas in it, whereas infused mullein is just DMTand plant matter

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Does 2/3 hits really matter?

Like you wouldnt believe, taking a dose in 3 hits lessens its effects massively. This is probably why your dosage is high, for most people 25-30mg in a single hit will do it.
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#8 Posted : 6/1/2014 1:10:06 PM
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Next time I try I will use the same ash sandwich method, I found it so easy. I'll milk the bong up, clear my lungs then keep inhaling/burning the dmt while my finger is over the hole, until my lungs psysicaly cannot hold any more, then I'll hold for 10 seconds and see off I can get anything else out of the pipe.

I have some serious lung power so I do think I could manage one huge hit.
 
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#9 Posted : 6/2/2014 8:01:41 AM

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3rdI wrote:
Japansage wrote:
You'll have to excuse my noob banter but Mullein? Is that making 'changa' you are referring to?

Its a herb that's used for infusion. changa will also have harmalas in it, whereas infused mullein is just DMTand plant matter

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Does 2/3 hits really matter?

Like you wouldnt believe, taking a dose in 3 hits lessens its effects massively. This is probably why your dosage is high, for most people 25-30mg in a single hit will do it.



So are you soaking your DMT in (vodka/acetone/ethanol or whatever) and then mixing it with mullein, letting it dry and smoking it in 1 hit,

Or are you simply using mullein as a sandwich method in the bong?


Also the reason i wasnt using water is because I read DMT is soluble in water?
 
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#10 Posted : 6/2/2014 9:38:43 AM

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yes, i just infuse my magic into mullein (at a ratio of 1:1) using IPA , once its dried and cured I just stick it in a bong and puff tuff, i also like to put a thin layer of plain mullien on top just to protect the goodies a little more.

IMO you dont need to worry about the water stealing your magic, i dont think the water is in contact with the magic for long enough to obsorb it.(this has come up before but i cant find the thread)

for the amount of time it takes to infuse i dont think you will be disapointed, its like the sandwich but better with less hassle,
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#11 Posted : 6/2/2014 11:24:55 AM

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3rdI wrote:
yes, i just infuse my magic into mullein (at a ratio of 1:1) using IPA , once its dried and cured I just stick it in a bong and puff tuff, i also like to put a thin layer of plain mullien on top just to protect the goodies a little more.

IMO you dont need to worry about the water stealing your magic, i dont think the water is in contact with the magic for long enough to obsorb it.(this has come up before but i cant find the thread)

for the amount of time it takes to infuse i dont think you will be disapointed, its like the sandwich but better with less hassle,


Ok good sir, I am going to try your method of infusing the magic into the mullein
(about to buy this IPA online, that ok? - http://www.amazon.co.uk/...ywords=alcohol+isopropyl)& Ordered some mullein online from a local uk herb shop

Im gonna put some water in the bong too. Another question i have is, to test this - can i infuse any amount of magic? I dont really wanna infuse everything i have. Can i infuse a dose's worth like 60/70mg just to see if it works for me first?


(sorry D1 for hijacking your intro thread)
 
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#12 Posted : 6/2/2014 11:49:56 AM

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i use that IPA, just do an evap test first to make sure its clean.

you can certainly infuse a small amount although a bigger batch is probably less wasteful.

there is also a solvent free method which may work better on a small amount of material

good luck and get out there while its sunny, the rain is coming, surprisingly.
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#13 Posted : 6/2/2014 2:17:51 PM

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Hi D1,

I'm in the North East! Welcome.

I'm a long time user of psyches, but new to DMT. Now got two flights under my belt (third one this weekend!).

I'm planning to get something specifically for smoking DMT, but I've been using a waterfall bong with great effect so far - with some modifications.

In case you are unfamiliar with a waterfall, you need some foil, a wire gauze, and a bottle. I recommend a large lucozade bottle as it's a decent size and got a wide top. Create a very small hole at the bottom and then a larger hole as a rush (so you can cover the rush with your thumb and the little hole with a finger whilst holding the bottle with the same hand.

You then want to get two pieces of foil which can go over the top. Fit the first one so it dips slightly inside the top of the bottle, and poke some small holes with a needle at the bottom. Then fit your gauze into this. Take it out carefully so it retains its shape. Then take the second bit of foil and shape it so it will fit over the top of the bottle, and poke a single small hole in the top.

When you put the two together, you are looking to create a foil pocket to sit at the top of the bottle with your spice on the gauze in the middle. The top layer is there to prevent your flame from touching the spice, and also creates a channel of hot air pulled through it. The bottom is there for the spice and smoke to funnel into the bottle.

Now, the fun bit. Load up your spice into the bottom bit of foil. Now, cover the holes, and fill the bottle up with water to the top. Put your bottom bit of foil (with the spice) over the top of the bottle, and keep it airtight. Then take the top bit of foil, and place that over the top.

Then, take your lighter and hold it close to the hole. Release the small hole and let the water out slowly until you see the smoke coming through, then release the rush hole (keep the water flowing out slowly to brew it slowly). Once the water is fully drained, you should have a 1.25ltr bottle filled with DMT smoke which you can one shot easily. My experiences so far is that this is a particularly smooth way to get the smoke in, but I'm yet to have a full breakthrough.

If you give it a go, let me know how you find it!
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