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#1 Posted : 7/29/2013 11:25:02 PM

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After watching the documentary Magical Egypt, by John Anthony West. There is an episode (recommend this for any psychonaut) about the Duat. More specifically its the Pyramid text, coffin text all together it makes the Egyptian book of the Dead. I have a good feeling that these descriptions of the afterlife can give us a clue, on what "may" happen after death. I also looked at what Graham Hancock said about the possible use of the Great Pyramids as a (the inside areas) that would be used by the initiate to induce a deathlike state to help prepare for navigating the duat. It seams that the Egyptians may have used psychedelics like Blue Water Lily to achieve altered states of consciousness. I way to experience ego dissolution, harmonic resonance etc. What makes it more interesting is the evidence of the Sphinx much older then we thought (12,500 years ago or 10'500 BC) So perhaps the knowlege of what is in these altered states/afterlife, were kept and passed down over the years... And after it was lost, it was rediscovered (via psychonauts) by the Tibet/Buddist culture as the Bardo Thodal. After reading the book by Timothy Leary, I can see the link to psychedelics in it, (it was written in psychedelic tongue) Also reading Rick Strassmans book DMT: The Spirit Molecule, there are connections made between what is described in the thodal & altered states. The differnces between the Tibeten & Egyptian is that in the Tibetin I see the theme of 49 days, 49days for light to descend down into matter, or 49 days after conception & at that point the gender is decided. With the Egyptian its like 7 days I think or 24 hours, (i dont remember) But anyways I want to know if there are any sort of books, or publications that involve a psychonught type comparison of the two books or perhaps a psychedelic translation of it.....

My thinking is that if both were experienced altered states there may be certain aspects that are the same, (not really, but more of a common thread or theme between the two)
It seams to me that the objective if the Egyptian book is to become a Star...I take this as getting out of the cycle of reincarnation. But I may be wrong. But anyways this texts are a good thing for us (psychonauts) or people scared of death, and with this being so closely tied to altered states. We as a community to try and put the pieces together on these two books, including what ever we know so far about NDE's, altered states, ect. I think this can help a lot of people both non psychedelics users and active users. I think as a Psychedelic/Entheogenic University we should really nail down (the best we can) our human use of altered states, and what are ancients knew about navigating those realms. Smile

Sorry for going off on this tangent, but if you guys would like to through in any translations, literature, ideas, books what ever please deposit it here. Smile


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLChbODT4jg <<<<<< This is the Episode of Magical Egypt
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#2 Posted : 8/4/2013 4:35:58 AM

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Nice post! Where to start?

Psychelexium528Hz* wrote:
What makes it more interesting is the evidence of the Sphinx much older then we thought (12,500 years ago or 10'500 BC)


Or even more interesting is that the Egyptians (or the ancient colonisers of that land) had clear knowledge of the 25,920 year cycle known as the Great Cycle aka the Platonic Year aka the Annus Magnus. And though there is evidence in Egyptian architecture that that at least three such cycles of this were recorded, it is considered that even earlier cycles (not just in Egypt) are recorded, if only in symbolic/pictorial representation.

I am not sure what psychedelic language would look like but if pressed I would consider it symbolic/pictorial (even mathematical?) as opposed to textual.

The Bardot Thodol seemed the obvious answer to your query but you have read that. A foreword quote in an edition of that book reads: "Against his will, he dieth that hath not learned to die. Learn to die and thou shalt learn to live, for there shall none learn to live that have not learned to die"; this is taken from The Book of the Craft of Dying. (Which I won't pretend I have read, because I haven't)

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It seams to me that the objective if the Egyptian book is to become a Star...I take this as getting out of the cycle of reincarnation.
. Possibly. An occult axiom states: "MAN becomes a stone, a plant, an animal, a man, a Spirit, and finally God". (See the evolution from mineral to plant to flesh and so on). I am not saying it is true, because I don't know. But these things are out there to read and to ponder over.

From my readings and ponderings I have wondered whether once upon a time mankind had unhindered access to both the earthly world and the spiritual worlds (we're talking long, long ago, here). And as access to the latter became more restricted due to our evolutionary material development, it became a requirement for men to seek access to the spirit realm (or however it may be described) with aid of the plant world, until such time as (many years hence from now) our natural ability to access that world returns, based on our natural evolutionary development.

Maybe it's for us, the coming generations (over many millennia?) to start to put down the ideas and the findings that will one day culminate in such a book that you ask about. Maybe it won't be the first time such a book has been produced. Maybe the Egyptian and Tibetan books are just what you query...but the older language is lost on our modern materialistic consciousness. Who knows? Let's just keep on talking, sharing and learning Smile


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#3 Posted : 6/1/2014 6:55:16 AM
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"Maybe it's for us, the coming generations (over many millennia?) to start to put down the ideas and the findings that will one day culminate in such a book that you ask about."

I definitely agree with you guys, I just met with Erik Davis this week and decided that this gonna be my thesis (im a student in Ms communication sciences in Montreal). Please let me know if you got information on this topic, I will post what i find as well ;P

Because of Leary's work and the contemporary resurgence of death rehearsal through psychedelics, I think there is a real need to do this study.

to be continued .. Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 6/1/2014 12:03:15 PM

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Psychelexium528* wrote:

It seams to me that the objective if the Egyptian book is to become a Star...I take this as getting out of the cycle of reincarnation.


I don't think the Egyptians believed in reincarnation. My understanding is that the Egyptians believed that there were certain puzzles/riddles that one had to complete correctly following death in order to assure that you made it to an afterlife at all, and didn't simply die. The weighing of the heart ceremony as outlined in the Book of the Dead is part of these procedures. It's an interesting belief to have if you think about it because in the West, it is typically assumed (barre reincarnation) that there either is an afterlife, or there isn't. It seems possible that the Egyptians believed in both possibilities. The Book of the Dead I believe was intended as a guide to ensure a safe passing.

You ask if there's a psychedelic version of the Book of the Dead, but the kind of scary thing is that it already is heavily psychedelic. It seems that the Egyptians were really on to something. My Egyptian visions match their aesthetics. Some of the gods I've seen are recognizable down to the detail. I can't say that I've necessarily had any visions straight out of the book, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit, if some psychonaut somewhere has actually seen a scene from the Book play out before their eyes. I myself have seemed to have experienced an afterlife procedure as outlined in the Kabbala.

I would also suggest looking into the Dr. Boulter's "The Pyramid Code" 5-part documentary series. It's fascinating.
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"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

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#6 Posted : 6/1/2014 7:01:23 PM

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Global wrote:
I would also suggest looking into the Dr. Boulter's "The Pyramid Code" 5-part documentary series. It's fascinating.

These videos are very thought provoking indeed, I loved them. You can find them here for convenience's sake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tKaDL5rhYc&list=PL47DEC7F7AAD3E3A9

Also, make sure to check out one Paul Brunton, who spent a night in the King's Chamber:
http://www.metaphysics-knowledge.com/miscellaneous/ancient-egyptian-pyramids-experiences-of-paul-brunton.html/

He was visited by 'spirits' of some sort and describes an out of body experience:

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He described them as monstrous elemental creations. He felt very scared but then he was determined and he wanted to be there till the end. Soon these shadows went and what came was even scarier. He felt as if he was paralyzed He saw some beings in ceremonial dresses. They looked like the high priests. These apparitions took him to a secret chamber inside the pyramid. This was the hall of learning.

Dr Paul Brunton felt that his soul had left him and he was gone into a realm that was beyond death. He could feel that he left his physical body. What he described was an astral projection. Astral body is similar to an out of body experience. Dr Paul Brunton said that he could see a silver line between his lifeless body and the body that was floating inside the pyramid. He could see his lifeless body lying on the floor of the pyramid.

 
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#7 Posted : 6/7/2014 11:53:29 PM
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Global wrote:
[quote=Psychelexium528*]
You ask if there's a psychedelic version of the Book of the Dead, but the kind of scary thing is that it already is heavily psychedelic.


Absolutely, I agree. But still, as Huxley and Leary have used the Tibetan Book of the Dead and the concept of Bardo as a model to understand their pychedelics experiences (and eventually to map death space), I wonder if someone ever did the same thing with the Egyptian Book.

Your reports are much appreciated,
Checking out Boulter's 'Pyramid Code' now Smile
Many Thanks !!




 
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#8 Posted : 6/7/2014 11:54:39 PM
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cubeananda wrote:
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Ouch! Big business,
Thanks!
 
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#9 Posted : 7/6/2014 11:00:50 PM
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Thanks for your help, links have been much appreciated.

I've changed the orientation of my research for a bit, it's now titled -media archaeology of psychedelic renaissance in the age of transhumanism-

But I'm still into the Egyptian/Tibetan Books of the Dead. Im doing a research creation project for my master. Which means I have to create something. For now, I have this hazy idea of creating a multiplayer video game or an app called The Cybernetic Book of the Dead.
I have no exact narratives for the moment but it would be inspired by neuronal games, the Books of the Dead, obviously cybernetics (do you know this book from James Kent 'psychedelic information theory'? its inspiring and free to download), the god helmet experiment, the oculus rift, etc. Also, I thought the main goal would be to disappear, instead of collecting lives. Obviously I'm not going to create the game all by myself, but a community will.



Keep in touch'!


 
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I have this book in hardcover and although not psychedelic, it is an interesting read (that which I have read of it).

cubeananda, stellar post! I can't wait to read all of it Very happy

Magical Egypt is a great series (although I do remember it dragging a little at points, I recall a scene on a beach with rocks, if you know what I'm talking about, haha). And to others, thanks for providing links to the Pyramid Code, it should be a good watch. The pyramids are so fascinating to me. And it was to the Greeks as well, as a quote from Herodotus (in regards to The Labyrinth) suggests:

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There I saw twelve palaces regularly disposed, which had communication with each other, interspersed with terraces and arranged around twelve halls. It is hard to believe they are the work of man.

The walls are covered with carved figures, and each court is exquisitely built of white marble and surrounded by a colonnade. Near the corner where the labyrinth ends, there is a pyramid, two hundred and forty feet in height, with great carved figures of animals on it and an underground passage by which it can be entered.

I was told very credibly that underground chambers and passages connected this pyramid with the pyramids at Memphis.
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#11 Posted : 7/7/2014 4:05:28 AM

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Let's also not forget about the Egyptians understanding of the precession of the equinox. A cycle with a 'falling asleep' and 'waking up' duality, just like we fall asleep and wake each day.

They understood the significance of this cycle - the last time we were in the 'waking' phase, was when these ancient cultures inhabited Earth. The 'falling asleep' portion of the cycle coincides with the death and destruction of the last 2000 years.

The Mayans predicted the date that the next 'waking' cycle begins, you guessed it: December 21st, 2012.


We are indeed changing. It's 13000 years in the making.
 
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#12 Posted : 7/7/2014 5:12:05 AM

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#13 Posted : 11/14/2014 10:13:07 PM
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Hello,

Just to let you know that the research is still on,
it will take place in the oculus rift, use the leap motion (hands tracking) and a headset that works with alpha brain waves (EEG). The plan is to create a virtual environment inspired by Egyptian book of the dead and ultimately, to create a video game that makes the player more familiar with the ego death experience.

Project is documented here, but only in french!
http://confirmezquevousn...ift-of-the-dead-project/

Someone already did a virtual environment ancient egypt inspired, pretty nice:
https://share.oculus.com...r-time-travelers-pharaoh

Stay tuned!

 
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#15 Posted : 12/7/2014 9:48:28 PM
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[quote=HippingTrippY]The answer to your question may or may not be found http://www.shamanicjourneys.com

Thank you!
i will try to initiate conversation with N.Scully, it would be a great contribution to the project! THX!

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#16 Posted : 12/7/2014 10:18:26 PM
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The project is now documented in english here (more to come):
http://wtcmeetsvr.com

For now, we might use Autodesk123d Catch to create 3d environments from pictures (simpler and much than an 3d 360 camera or 3d sensor). If any of you is already familiar with that, any contribution would be welcome!



 
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I don't know if this is relevant but apparently ancient Egyptians brewed their own version of "formohuasca" with the DMT containing tree, acacia nilotica, which they worshipped as the tree of life. It is said that they brewed a drink known as "yrp," similar to ayahuasca, from the root bark. It mentions Syrian rue as the maoi used in the brew. It is also proposed that Syrian rue is the burning bush of the Old Testament. Here is a link to the website of graham Hancock, the author who seems to be the source of these theories. I don't know how reliable his information is, some of his work is controversial and he does seem to have a sensational connect the dots attitude to history. The fact the acacia nilotica is found in Egypt and used in ancient art is pretty convincing to me. http://www.grahamhancock.com/ph...mp;i=342586&t=342453
 
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