Hello DMT-Nexus,

FINALLYI was able to register and can be part of the community after lurking around for several months.
Aynways my question is the following.
I've purchased a GVG, Volt Torch Lighter, VG Ceramic stone and got my hands on several sorts of spice.
The first one was slightly tanned and it was simply divine. I felt a female presence that was very kind. She took something out of me that made me feel like I became a parent and she was also there for my first breakthrough. The whole visuals were very bright and white. I never felt threatened or negative vibes. I should also note that she was there every time.
However at some point I've ran out of that spice and decided to load up the other spice that was what I would call bright yellow. Immediately after my blast off (a few hours after my last trip with the whitish DMT) I saw three male entities that looked like trolls and who were just being plain rude. They pulled faces at me, were fooling around and even farted... I know it sounds weird but this trip felt very dirty. I had the feeling of standing next to a very busy road, breathing in fumes of the cars and looking at those three useless punk trolls.
After the trip I decided to take a break for a few days because it was such a negative experience but when I tried to blast off again and urgently tried to summon my female friend those three guys showed up again and ruined my trip.

Is there a chance that different kinds of DMT produce a different kind of trip?
I ended up throwing away the rest of the bright yellow DMT because it gave me nothing but negative feelings.

Best regards.

Hi, welcome to the nexus.

As for the type of DMT, there has been discussion that there are two polymorphs but dmt is dmt the differences can be attributed to impurities and/or other alkaloids that have been pulled.
However youre not the first to mention experiencing largely differing effects from different extracts.
Suggestibility, expectation timing set and setting, the balance of your own brain chemicals at that time can also play a part in changing the experience.
The brain is a complex thing and what stands out to me is the fact you had that experience a couple of hours after a previous breakthrough.
May have been too soon and the feeling of breathing exhaust fumes doesnt sound good at all the extract could be dirty with solvent trapped in it. Possibly the trolls were your subconcious expressing this..

You're playing with magic, its not all beauty and light.

Its unpredictable insanity to a level you can't ever understand, just learn to love it, the good the bad and the ugly.

You should never throw away magic, you made the universe cry

Hello DreaMTripper,
I've read the Attitude thread but somehow the one fact slipped my mind. Probably because I was too excited to be part of the community!

Anyways what you are saying about the setting is completely right and I'm very experienced with LSD and Shrooms. My setting is almost always the same and I take around 10 minutes to meditate before every trip. However the rapid change of visuals, feelings and overall impression can't be caused by the setting in my opinion.
While the first spice felt like a brief holiday in Paris (never been to Paris but it felt like it during my breakthrough) the other felt like a hard day of work in the sewers.

I also believe that my body is trying to tell me that the DMT is impure and this is why I threw it away.
The saddest part is that I started to miss my female friend from the first 5-10 trips. She was very kind and literally became a friend that I could come to in the evening to talk to and relax.

I also noticed that MDMA and or Tobacco is a no-go for me with DMT. After consumption of the substances I was unable to even have open eye visuals for a week (This has been after my failed attempts with the bright yellow DMT). Fortunately I've been able to achieve a breakthrough after waiting a week and ended up in a completely different universe with entities completely black but vivid colours all over them just like Russian Motryoshkas.

My first steps in hyperspace are very interesting and I love every single one of them except this one spice. I'm curious if other people have had similar experiences and hope to be able to contribute with my own.


EDIT: Hello 3rdI, throughout my research on DMT I've read many great posts from you. I agree that not every trip is supposed to be sunshine this is why I gave the spice 5 attempts. I tried to enter the trips with a different attitude, tried to be friendly to the trolls and so much more. However nothing changed and I felt really dirty after every trip. It felt like I was learning nothing except watching those trolls taunting me and being useless. I felt really bad when throwing away the magic but I also felt that this wasn't the key to finding for the enlighthment that I am looking for.

If its plays on your mind I guess its easy to get stuck in the same place, its slippery stuff, its not much fun to smoalk it for the sake of it. Maybe it would have cleaned up with a re-x.

Hope you can get back to the glory soon

extract it yourself. learn here how to. Its the only way to guarantee quality of spice. I personally would NEVER use spice not extracted by myself.

I have made the mistake in the past by throwing spice away thinking it wasn't any good. turned out to be my vapourizing technique. gutted. what a waste.

Keeping the batch of spice consistent, you could easily get either side of the positivity/negativity spectrum. It's like playing roulette. There are such a variety of combinations and permutations of factors that can arise to make entirely different experiences from the exact same stuff. It's already so variable as it is, but now once you're talking about different batches, it becomes too variable to start to try and conclude what influence it had. You could have easily (and might still) see those trolls with your preferred batch.

How do you know that color of the freebase correlates with the type of experience that'll unfold?

Color has nothing to do with what experience you'll have. The experience is so variable anyways.

Dmt can unfold many hidden modalities that you never knew existed. Negativity is entirely subjective. What one persons experiences as 'rough', 'evil', 'bad' - another can experience the complete opposite or in a different light.

Negative feelings alot of times spring forth from how you react to whats happening, and the experience will play on that. There are points though, where you cross a line, and all that fear goes completely out the window.

The experience works with where your at in your life and what you give it- nothing more nothing less.

And, you threw out perfectly good DMT?

Perhaps residual solvent in the batch colouring the experience?