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lifebinder
#1 Posted : 5/28/2014 1:45:05 PM

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Since mimosa hostilis doesn't grow in the Balkans nor does SWIM have the time to bother with Acacia,he pointed his eyes on desmanthus-illinoensis(looks similar to mimosa) and has heard somewhere that it contains gramine (depending on various conditions).So if SWIM were to do a A/B extraction with pure petroleum ether as an organic solvent will there any gramine in his supposebly DMT crystals/goo ?
 

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#2 Posted : 5/28/2014 1:49:16 PM

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And as it seems people tenГ to be more interested in Phalaris which in my opinion seems to be too risky and unpredictable in terms of the various alkaloid ratio combinations that may occur.
 
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#3 Posted : 5/28/2014 3:32:29 PM

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lifebinder wrote:
Since mimosa hostilis doesn't grow in the Balkans nor does SWIM have the time to bother with Acacia,he pointed his eyes on desmanthus-illinoensis(looks similar to mimosa) and has heard somewhere that it contains gramine (depending on various conditions).So if SWIM were to do a A/B extraction with pure petroleum ether as an organic solvent will there any gramine in his supposebly DMT crystals/goo ?



Very little if any gramine will be pulled from an A/B extraction done correctly.

Also, if I recall, the danger is slightly higher in ayahuasca analogues, when taken orally, rather than smoked FB DMT (which is pretty much non-existant).
 
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#4 Posted : 5/28/2014 3:42:23 PM
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lifebinder wrote:
Since mimosa hostilis doesn't grow in the Balkans nor does SWIM have the time to bother with Acacia,he pointed his eyes on desmanthus-illinoensis(looks similar to mimosa) and has heard somewhere that it contains gramine (depending on various conditions).So if SWIM were to do a A/B extraction with pure petroleum ether as an organic solvent will there any gramine in his supposebly DMT crystals/goo ?

Why no time to bother with Acacia? Acacia confusa is a wonderful teacher Smile.

From what I've read just now from google and the wiki it says gramine is "almost insoluble in petroleum ether," and that it "is potentially toxic."

Considering you would have to be quite careful in removing all traces of possible toxins (gramine), maybe you should just go the Acacia route since it doesn't contain gramine.

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#5 Posted : 5/28/2014 7:54:16 PM

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Well two reasons 1st is that I am moving from my current location soon and the 2nd is 3 years is a long time and I want to be able to understand hyperspace ASAP! Very happy
 
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#6 Posted : 5/29/2014 5:58:05 PM

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So back to the topic is this a viable quick growing DMT source or would you recommend me something else (that maybe contains more spice and is somewhat easier or simillar to grow it Very happy )
 
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#7 Posted : 5/29/2014 8:49:58 PM

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Desmanthus Leptolobus

Similar to Desmanthus Ill. Hope this helps Pleased
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#8 Posted : 5/30/2014 2:04:45 PM

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Thanks , I will look into it !
 
 
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