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Squirrel
#1 Posted : 5/27/2014 12:18:49 PM

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Hi there,

So a first extraction (Cyb's Tek) took place yesterday and it went pretty well, I learned a lot from it. The fist pull with naphta wasn't so great but decided to freeze it anyways so it was put into a glass roasting dish, with aluminum foil over it and rubber band around. It was in the freezer for about 15-16 hours. When it was taken out, there wasn't a lot but a good amount of white DMT (Pretty Sure it was DMT) on the bottom. It was poured out and left upside down for maybe 2 minutes, then it was put against a wall with a fan about 1 foot (1/3 meters) away from it. After five minutes the DMT was checked on and it was no where to be found Sad

I think what was done wrong was either not letting it sit upside down long enough, or the fan was way too close. The reason for both was because SWIM thought that keeping it away from the fan when it was taken out would result in the DMT melting, and having the fan too far would result in it melting. After it was seen that the DMT was gone, there were still spots of naphta that were not evaporated.

I am actually really happy that this happened because I don't want my later big pulls to get kidnapped.
 

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#2 Posted : 5/27/2014 12:28:04 PM

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your Magic cant just disapear, it either wasnt DMT (ice crystals?) or it has dissolved back into the remaining solvent.

i always leave my tray upside down on an angle for an hour or 2 after pouring off the solvent which seems to allow a good amount of solvent to run off the crystals.
I always keep the fan about 2-3 inches away and the solvent smell is gone in about 20-30 mins leaving the magic.

im not sure why you had this problem but there are a few threads kicking about with this very problem, might be worth seeing if anyone has turned anything up you think is relevant.
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Squirrel
#3 Posted : 5/27/2014 2:08:13 PM

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3rdI wrote:
your Magic cant just disapear, it either wasnt DMT (ice crystals?) or it has dissolved back into the remaining solvent.

i always leave my tray upside down on an angle for an hour or 2 after pouring off the solvent which seems to allow a good amount of solvent to run off the crystals.
I always keep the fan about 2-3 inches away and the solvent smell is gone in about 20-30 mins leaving the magic.

im not sure why you had this problem but there are a few threads kicking about with this very problem, might be worth seeing if anyone has turned anything up you think is relevant.


ok maybe I didn't let in drain long enough. I thought that it would melt of with the naphta if it was away from a fan. So for my next pulls if I let it drain for an hour, would the crystals still stay on the glass or will they melt away?
 
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#4 Posted : 5/27/2014 2:52:09 PM

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I know this problem. I get arround this by laying the dish upside down in the freezer to drain in the cold for...dunno...half an hour or so. Of course I lay something under the dish to catch the naphta. Works wonders for me. No more disappearing spice since then. I also try not to wait to long with the scraping. When I have scraped the spice up I put it on paper to leave it dry. I think it's important to get it out of the cold dish as soon as possible because of the condensation which happens at room temp.
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#5 Posted : 5/27/2014 3:19:45 PM

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I avoid this by aiming the exhaust of an (air) dehumidifier directly into the container with my DMT; this removes the remaining solvent before any problems from condensation can occur.
 
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#6 Posted : 5/27/2014 3:47:17 PM

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It would not surprise me if you freeze precipitated a nice yield of water-ice crystals. It is not an uncommon thing to happen when doing first extractions. Although water doesn't really mix with naphta, tiny droplets of water can form a suspension in the naphta that is hard to see with the naked eye and becomes apparent only after a few hours in the freezer.

You can remove a lot of suspended water droplets and also tiny plant particles from the pulled naphta by letting the naphta stand for a while in a warm water bath, heated to the same temperature as the extraction vessel. After standing for an hour or a half, almost all of the droplets will have sunk to the bottom and the naphta can be decanted carefully. The bottom naphta with the water or plant soup can be put back into the extraction vessel for another pulling cycle. This settling step can best be done after doing a soda wash on the naptha pulled from the basified tea.

Another trick is to decant the naphta after freeze precipitation and then putting the dish back in the freezer slanted with one bottom corner downwards. Most naphta remaining between the crystals will accumulate in that corner and can then again be decanted. After that, it should not be necessary anymore to put the dish upside down, just evaparate the remaining solvent. To prevent excess water condensing in the still cold dish, cover the dish for a few minutes while it is warming up to room temperature.

 
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#7 Posted : 5/27/2014 4:14:23 PM

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DMT doesn´t dissapear, it either wasnt there in the first place or it just melted. Where did it melt into, if it did? You can probably just recover. Also notice that when dmt melts, it forms a goo that is misleadingly heavy, while seeming like its almost nothing.

Please check the FAQ regarding freeze precipitation and melting crystals.
 
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#8 Posted : 5/27/2014 6:54:54 PM

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endlessness wrote:
DMT doesn´t dissapear, it either wasnt there in the first place or it just melted. Where did it melt into, if it did? You can probably just recover. Also notice that when dmt melts, it forms a goo that is misleadingly heavy, while seeming like its almost nothing.

Please check the FAQ regarding freeze precipitation and melting crystals.


I washed the glass dish Sad
 
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#9 Posted : 5/27/2014 8:49:55 PM

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Squirrel wrote:
endlessness wrote:
DMT doesn´t dissapear, it either wasnt there in the first place or it just melted. Where did it melt into, if it did? You can probably just recover. Also notice that when dmt melts, it forms a goo that is misleadingly heavy, while seeming like its almost nothing.

Please check the FAQ regarding freeze precipitation and melting crystals.


I washed the glass dish Sad

Rule number 1 when learning to extract: Never throw anything away until you are absolutely certain that there is no DMT left to be recovered from it.

Hope you have better luck with the rest of your pulls. Thumbs up
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#10 Posted : 5/28/2014 12:56:00 AM

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The same thing just recently happened with my first extraction.... I used acacia confusa and did a STB ( bad decision but lesson learned ) I yielded nothing but yellow goo for over a week just trying to get SOMETHING out of it.... Although it's fairly expensive, I'm going to give mimosa bark a shot
 
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#11 Posted : 5/28/2014 4:08:19 AM

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Tyler_Trismegistus wrote:
The same thing just recently happened with my first extraction.... I used acacia confusa and did a STB ( bad decision but lesson learned ) I yielded nothing but yellow goo for over a week just trying to get SOMETHING out of it.... Although it's fairly expensive, I'm going to give mimosa bark a shot

I hope you didn't throw it away...
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#12 Posted : 5/28/2014 4:22:53 AM

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Tyler_Trismegistus wrote:
The same thing just recently happened with my first extraction.... I used acacia confusa and did a STB ( bad decision but lesson learned ) I yielded nothing but yellow goo for over a week just trying to get SOMETHING out of it.... Although it's fairly expensive, I'm going to give mimosa bark a shot


Ya you should, I still have 40g of mhrb left but after that I will only get acacia, mhrb is a bit harder to obtain. So I did two pulls and put them in a jar instead of glass roasting dish and stuck that bad boy into the freezer!
 
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#13 Posted : 5/28/2014 9:33:10 AM

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And entheogenerator the goop was all kept and smoked. Very very mild effects. Felt like almost ALL NMT. I noticed an emulsion in my jars and think that could possibly be trapping my DMT? I still have the jars of acacia sludge with emulsions, so I'll probably monkey around with it a few days til I get to my mimosa extraction
 
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#14 Posted : 7/22/2014 10:33:43 PM

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Tyler_Trismegistus wrote:
The same thing just recently happened with my first extraction.... I used acacia confusa and did a STB ( bad decision but lesson learned ) I yielded nothing but yellow goo for over a week just trying to get SOMETHING out of it.... Although it's fairly expensive, I'm going to give mimosa bark a shot


the only extraction i use for acacia or mimosa is a stb. i think you will find if the stb isnt working out for you, theres a step(s) your missing or havent been given enough tips on different processes. if this IS the case, theres more room for error with an A/B
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