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First extraction ACRB Cyb's Salt Tek Options
 
Komuso
#1 Posted : 5/9/2014 3:26:38 PM
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[It turned out that the quality of the ACRB I received was low in terms of DMT percentage]
First and second pulls from 50g of ACRB powder. I don't have a milligram scale yet to weigh the results (edit: weighed 199mg). I used Cyb's salt tek as described by one member who also used ACRB at the link here: (https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=446997)

1st pull

2nd pull

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Some notes -

Turkey basters are a pain, like everyone has reported. Ended up using a syringe but the rubber plunger began to degrade (edit: acquired a glass syringe which you can see below). When mixing with the naphtha I rolled the bottle gently, end over end, in order to get the sediment at the bottom mixed in. Then I held the bottle up-right and swirled the contents by holding the bottle with both hands and making small, level/horizontal circles.
 

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#2 Posted : 5/9/2014 4:10:26 PM

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Did you warn you're solvent , let mix seperate 4 times , also how many more pulls have you done ??
 
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#3 Posted : 5/9/2014 4:32:36 PM

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nice! Are you going to re-x?
 
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#4 Posted : 5/9/2014 5:25:53 PM
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Earthwalker wrote:
Did you warn you're solvent , let mix seperate 4 times , also how many more pulls have you done ??


Hi, Thanks for asking. I warmed the bottle of solvent in hot water before adding it. Maybe it could have been hotter. I mixed and allowed for separation five times for each extraction. I haven't done any more pulls besides these two. The only thing I had to intentionally do differently was let it rest at the vinegar/acid stage (before salt and lye) for 48 hours vs. 20. I also did not shake it at the solvent stage but instead I swirled it (30 seconds every 10 minutes).

Adjhart wrote:
nice! Are you going to re-x?


Hi, Thank you. It was fun! I might re-x. Do you recommend it?
 
Komuso
#5 Posted : 5/14/2014 6:39:23 PM
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I decided to make a 10x caapi leaf changa. In the picture you'll notice a 50ml glass syringe which I received today. It works much better than the turkey basters and is easy to clean. The silver bag contains the caapi leaves and the plastic container is full of indicating silicone desiccant.

 
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#6 Posted : 5/14/2014 9:23:23 PM
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Here's my 3rd pull. Was quite oily and yellow which I am guessing means more NMT. The first two pulls amounted to 199mg. I could not, however, figure out how to weigh this pull.



I decided to take pictures of extracting caapi leaves since I hadn't seen any before.

Smells great!


Strainer set-up. Plastic strainer and bowl with doubled up cheese cloth.


The cheese cloth worked well because you can twist the two ends to squeeze the clump of leaves.


This is a metal coffee filter with very fine mesh inside of a small colander which I'm just using to keep the coffee filter up off of the bottom of the pot. Want to make sure I get it filtered as well as I can.


After about an hour of boiling I lowered the heat once the water level dropped to around what you see in the following picture. That way I could simmer it down further in a more steady fashion. After it boiled down and became somewhat syrupy I decided to remove it from the heat and evaporate the rest. I decided to evaporate and get the powder vs. bowling 1g of leaves to soak it up.


Once removed from the heat it becomes more cloudy in appearance.



Now it's evaporating by this box fan in the window. Kind of like a freshly baked pie.
 
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#7 Posted : 5/14/2014 10:15:36 PM

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Is this a typical yield from acrb?

I think the tek states that using 50mg of mhrb should yield 1 gram.

Im assuming because its acrb its different but I'm wondering since this was his first extraction did it not come out ad it should.

Reason j ask is I'm wondering what I should expect from this tek using mhrb for my first extract.
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#8 Posted : 5/14/2014 11:16:20 PM

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Mmm.
From what I know 199mg seems like a low yield, only 0.4%... Then again you should do more pulls on that same acrb, you'll prolly get a lot more out of it after 6 or 7.
 
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wakeup wrote:
Is this a typical yield from acrb?

I think the tek states that using 50mg of mhrb should yield 1 gram.

Im assuming because its acrb its different but I'm wondering since this was his first extraction did it not come out ad it should.

Reason j ask is I'm wondering what I should expect from this tek using mhrb for my first extract.


Not to be the spell checker of the nexus but when I saw 50mg of MHRB yielding a gram I had to do a double take but at last I came to the conclusion that it was a simple typo. For anybody who doesn't know 50g will yield around 1 gram. But seriously it wouldn't make a difference to me because yield varies greatly on the quality of root bark you attain if you attain root bark at all and not trunk bark.
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#10 Posted : 5/16/2014 4:29:12 PM
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After combining three pulls on the other 50g I had, I can confirm that it is the quality of the ACRB I received which resulted in a low yield. But I learned a lot with little invested in the raw materials. I'm now confident to move onto MHRB and will use the Max Ion tech. This is a lot of fun!
 
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#11 Posted : 5/18/2014 7:59:26 AM

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Komuso wrote:
After combining three pulls on the other 50g I had, I can confirm that it is the quality of the ACRB I received which resulted in a low yield. But I learned a lot with little invested in the raw materials. I'm now confident to move onto MHRB and will use the Max Ion tech. This is a lot of fun!

If I was you I'd stick to the small scale TEKs as I no you might think you learnt a lot but Truely do one more then device if you're ready to tackle the larger scale max-ion !!
 
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Earthwalker wrote:
If I was you I'd stick to the small scale TEKs as I no you might think you learnt a lot but Truely do one more then device if you're ready to tackle the larger scale max-ion !!

This is definitely good advice, but doesn't Cyb's Max Ion tek call for like 50-100g of rootbark? That's about what I have in mind when I recommend small-scale extractions.
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#13 Posted : 5/18/2014 12:51:09 PM

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Entheogenerator wrote:
Earthwalker wrote:
If I was you I'd stick to the small scale TEKs as I no you might think you learnt a lot but Truely do one more then device if you're ready to tackle the larger scale max-ion !!

This is definitely good advice, but doesn't Cyb's Max Ion tek call for like 50-100g of rootbark? That's about what I have in mind when I recommend small-scale extractions.


Yes 50g is the size I'd recomend as a small scale to anyone , and the max-ion TEK isn't suited to under 100g so I ment to say stick with the salt TEK using 50g 1 or 2 more times then try the larger amount with the max-ion TEK !Thumbs up
 
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#14 Posted : 5/23/2014 7:08:57 PM
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I believe I almost broke through with my first changa. Mostly "goo" on some 10x caapi leaves, using 91% alcohol. I took one small bong rip, felt the effects, and then took a nice sized one.

Saw my circulatory system nearly outside of my body then laid back. Saw the patterns and heard/felt the high pitched frequency. Felt as if I could feel between birth and death and had a sense I was remembering being in the womb. Felt a female presence but I didn't see any entities.
 
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#15 Posted : 5/27/2014 1:49:47 AM

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great extraction, thanks for your postings.

may i ask, where did you buy that syringe?
and what size is it in mL ?

thank you Smile
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#16 Posted : 5/27/2014 3:18:14 AM
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lewinii wrote:
great extraction, thanks for your postings.

may i ask, where did you buy that syringe?
and what size is it in mL ?

thank you Smile


Hi!

Sure thing. I purchased it off of ebay. The seller I bought mine from no longer has them, however, if you search "glass syringe bard" you can see them from other sellers. There is also a 100ml one. Make sure it comes with the metal tip. If you get one I'd practice on some water first to get a feel for it. I use my index finger to secure the plunger after filling (see image).

 
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#17 Posted : 5/30/2014 1:36:13 AM

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thanks friend!

may i ask, did you do anything about the rubber plunger that was degrading?

how could that be avoided..
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#18 Posted : 5/30/2014 2:33:47 AM
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lewinii wrote:
thanks friend!

may i ask, did you do anything about the rubber plunger that was degrading?

how could that be avoided..


Hi,

You're most welcome. So the melting rubber issue was with a plastic syringe, the typical one's with the black rubber plungers. Thankfully the glass syringes don't require a rubber plunger, however, they do come with a small disc of hard rubber. I think it's there to cushion the glass plunger from hitting the bottom of the syringe. I didn't find it necessary for this application so I took it out. You can see it in post #5 at the bottom of the syringe. This plastic did not erode when it came in contact with the solvent.
 
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#19 Posted : 6/11/2014 4:43:15 PM
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I figured that a good way to close this out would be to post pictures of my extraction using MHRB with Cyb's Max Ion tek. I made a few mistakes that decreased my yield but I'm more than happy and eager to do another round without any blunders.





 
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