Are they the same?

Kleanstrip is $8-9 a quart
http://www.lowes.com/pd_...46_0__?productId=3162199


Crown is $12.99 a gallon.. (4x as much)
http://www.lowes.com/pd_...41_0__?productId=3024053

I haven't found any information on this comparison.

It seems to good to be true for 4x the amount. Do they function the same in extract?

anyone please lmk

Im unsure of the actual differences but from my experienece i tried crown and got 0% yield and got pretty sad until i tried kleanstrip afterwards and thats when the goodies came out. Idk what would be different but it definatley showed with the crown pulling absolutely nothing

Your best bet would probably be to look up the MSDS for this "Crown Naphtha".

Crown smells fowl, MSDS states 95% to 100% pure. Older outdated MSDS states 99-100% pure. Who knows.. Don't use it. MO

Would also like to add that I noticed very low yields with Crown though I have not used any other solutions to compare it's effectiveness with the same batch of root.

yield tends to stay at around .5% at most, and it takes more pulls than it should (30-40 mg off the first pulls out of 100g bark).

I shall report back when I get a chance to find another naphtha, though everything is pointing to the crown, considering each process is done perfectly.

Thanks for pointing this out as I just figured it was weak bark, unfortunately I think crown is the only thing sold locally so finding something else might take awhile.

I have used both. Crown smells horrid. Kleanstrip is my absolute favorite VM&P. It works great and you can get a gallon for $14.99 at the ACE near my place.

This is somewhat on topic so.I'll.post here. I recently.read in a tek to only use.vmp naotha and not.lighter fluid. Ie zippo or other brands.
However Cybs salt tek states to use lighter fluid and it is actually.pictured in the supplies used for the extract.

Can anyone comment on why other tek state to not use anything but VM P naptha.

Check what your solvent contains here:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=8080

Interesting! I have always used crown and never really had any problems with it to warrant another brand, but all of this information about Kleanstrip makes me want to test the waters! Thanks for this.

edit:
I just checked their list and Crown VM&P isn't on it.

I thought all naptha smelled horrid - am I wrong? What exactly makes Crown less quality than Kleanstip?

Don't forget, you can't rely on a brand as being "ok" to use.

You have to test any can that you buy to ensure it evaps cleanly.

These solvents are not sold for use in procedures where the end product is intended for ingestion and are not quality controlled to that standard.

What list?

If it says VM&P then you are pretty much in the clear for use, but you should always do an evap test to make sure before using any new brand.

As for the smell... Well.. I prefer to say that Kleanstrip smells "fresher". But crown smells like some dirty gasoline. Do a side by side and you will definitely notice how much cleaner the kleanstrip smells.

I assume the difference comes from the temperature used to distill the two napthas. One has more heavier hydrocarbons than the other. They also come from different original sources of petroleum, so composition is inherently going to be different.

Very true. Thanks for the reminder.



http://ilrc.ucf.edu/samp...detail.php?sample_id=352

Thanks for the info.

Wow that website is very cool. Thanks for sharing.

Not understanding the link k to check solvents. They all have a different comb of chemicals. Kleanstrip has six while zippo fluid and ace vmp have like four.

What exactly are we looking for?

Naphta is a mix of different chemicals. It comes from pretroleum distillation and, depending on the temperature used for the distillation, components are differents.

IMO, the best is the one with more lighter molecule (pentane, hexane, heptane) and you want to avoid those with addidives (anti-rust, dyes,...) or mixed with aromatics solvant (xylene, toluene,...). Pure heptane or hexane is the best of the best for me but i can't find any where i live.

^ This.

They evap faster, smell better, and grab more with lighter hydrocarbons.

That website basically just tells you which hydrocarbons are present in the given solvent.